Cards recently added to Consul Dirigens?

[poltorgeist]

I have recently returned to BGA Agricola and have been trying to host 4-player draft games using the old card set (base + consul dirigens) - there are way too many cards otherwise imo

I noticed there are cards recently added to the Consul Dirigens set - legworker (occ) and cookery extension (imp). These cards are not in my physical Consul Dirigens pack either so I am not familiar with them.

Are there any other newly added Consul Dirigens cards? And what are the stats of these cards (they are not included in the recent stats update)?

Come join me in games with this card set! I find it is a Goldilocks between base (narrow strategies and too much day laborer) and all (chaos and too many cards to learn and keep track of)

[EuroGamez]

Legworker is from the C-deck
The CD deck is just the cards that were originally in the Wizkids expansions.

cookery extension is not a card unless they have their own translation on here =S

[EuroGamez]

And generally I would avoid games that have very specific limited cardsets like the one you suggest. Because it suggests exactly people like you playing only the cards you know and specializing on a certain combination, it isn't fun for other people. I'd say just play with all the cards and leard them slowly. At least the playing field is more level or at least purely experience based. Carving out a special niche for just a certain set makes no sense to me.

[alexwjb]

Here is the situation from my perspective.

I got involved in coding Agricola last year, at first because I was keen to complete the job of implementing all cards released for the revised edition (what Agricola has been since 2016).

At the time, there were 32 cards that were unimplemented (or had previously been implemented but were disabled due to bugs). Of those, 29 are now implemented in the game.

By cross-referring to this database, here are the expansions which the new cards come from:

Card name Card ID Deck
Bassinet A025 Artifex
Winnowing Fan A061 Artifex
Publican A132 Artifex
Wood Palisades B030 Bubulcus
Love For Agriculture B072 Bubulcus
Farm Hand B085 Bubulcus
Sheep Walker B104 Base
Sweep B120 Bubulcus
Farmyard Worker B140 Bubulcus
Roll-Over Plow C018 Corbarius
Basket Chair C022 Corbarius
Farmstead C048 Corbarius
Small Potter's Oven C060 Corbarius
Cookery Extension C062 Corbarius
Land Consolidation C069 Corbarius
Festival Planning C072 Corbarius
Carpenter's Apprentice C088 Corbarius
Workshop Assistant C146 Corbarius
Sheep Inspector D093 Dulcinaria
Whisky Distiller D106 Dulcinaria
Cabbage Buyer D161 Dulcinaria
Bumper Crop E025 Ephipparius
Working Gloves E060 Ephipparius
Rock Garden E080 Ephipparius
Resource Hoarder E123 Ephipparius
Delayed Wayfarer E125 Ephipparius
Imitator E129 Ephipparius
Bunny Breeder E139 Ephipparius
Midnight Fencer E149 Ephipparius

Interestingly, the only expansion which DOESN'T have any new cards is Consul Dirigens! The way the letters work:

- A and B cards are either from the base game, or from the Artifex and Bubulcus expansions.
- C and D cards are from Corbarius, Dulcinaria or Consul Dirigens.
- E cards are all Ephipparius

The publisher explained that the reason for this slightly strange grouping is that each letter comprises a deck of 168 cards, but the printing process is much more efficient if you print 120 cards at a time. Hence why Corbarius and Dulcinaria are each 120 cards, then Consul Dirigens added 48 more cards to each of them, plus 24 Father/Mother cards, for a total of 120 cards in that expansion.

Notes:

- Legworker (Corbarius), Material Hub (Corbarius) and Lunchtime Beer (Ephipparius) were added last year by Acerbic, one of the original developers of the game and an all-round good guy who massively helped me with all this. After several months of patiently helping me with all kinds of advice and code review, he trusted me with the ability to make changes myself, which I've been doing my best to live up to. I am very grateful to him!
- Festival Planning is called "Harvest Festival Planning" and Cookery Extension is called "Cooking Hearth Extension" in the printed game. I changed them purely for reasons of space, to give them a better chance of fitting nicely on the card in all the translations of the game. (Though I must say "Cooking Hearth Extension" is kind of a weird name anyway, since in fact the card works with any cookery, not just a Cooking Hearth!).
- There are three cards left unimplemeneted. These are Witches' Dance Floor and Heresy Teacher (both of which are very confusing from a rules perspective), and Reed Seller (which would be very annoying to play with online, particularly in turn-based games, because it requires all players to repeatedly make simultaneous decisions one after another).

[poltorgeist]

Eurogamez,

Consul Dirigens contains 96 cards but is missing 24 cards from the colored WizKids expansions (6 expansions x 20 cards=120 cards - 96 cards = 24 cards) that are duplicates in the C (Corbarius) and D (Dulcinaria) decks (instead, Consul Dirigens contains 24 "parent" cards as a mini-expansion). These 24 cards are also the 24 cards in the 120 card BGA "CD" cards but not in Consul Dirigens.

Base + CD contains (at least) 216 cards, meaning that if you play a 4-player, draft 10 game, there is a 37% chance of a card being in the draft, let alone able to be picked by you. Personally, I find using a massive deck with a bajillion cards to learn and interactions to keep track of and a bloated banlist that people bicker over constantly to “make no sense to me.” I try not to yuck anyone’s yum, but since you did it first for no reason except haughtiness, here we are.

alexwjb,
I am 100% sure that at least Legworker and Cookery Extension were added to CD (Consul Dirigens) set on BGA since 2-ish years ago because I am seeing them now multiple times in that set. That is why I posted. Perhaps there is a coding error.

[alexwjb]

Aha - I have investigated and indeed there was a problem with how cards were being assigned to different decks in the code.

It's now fixed.