I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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daranub
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I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.


I played a single game of Catan for a whopping two hours.
And what made me that way were two people who consistently acted as kingmakers. Not only now, but if you look at their records, they continuously act as kingmakers yet receive absolutely no sanctions.


They not only swore but also kingmade, and not stopping there, they continued the game for two hours without forcing an end.

I had only two options: end my turn and wait for them to finish the game and take last place, or force-leave the game to collect karma.

I have encountered many people like this recently, so I have forced myself to leave games. Since I can no longer collect karma, I was forced to continue playing.

I was forced to play for two hours in a game that usually takes at most 40 minutes.




I couldn't leave the game again because I was afraid of losing Karma.

I did lose Karma.

Because I left the game midway.

My time is precious.

However, I couldn't leave this game.

Because I couldn't afford to lose Karma any further.



Just look at the gameplay of Pes*** and Nem***.

They play malicious team games and intentionally drag out the time.

They trap their opponents so they can't do anything, spend time making deals that are advantageous to them, and mock their opponents while playing.

I can't leave anymore because I would lose Karma.

I keep encountering people who play like this, and they receive no sanctions whatsoever.

There are two of them and I am just one, but they commit the wrongdoing themselves and give me a red thumbs up.

They are either the same person using two accounts or they are a team, so they are the majority, and I am forced to receive a majority of red thumbs up.

I cannot understand this vicious cycle of a game system.

In reality, their karma is normal. This is because they have always played 2-on-1 games, and the opposing side receives more red thumbs.

While playing this game, I lost points and time, received red thumbs for no reason, and was subjected to taunting and insults.

I have suffered so much loss, yet those who committed the wrongdoing receive no sanctions whatsoever.

Look. Please.

Look at their game records.

They always play together. They must have played games like this countless times.

Yet, their condition remains perfectly fine.

Games exhibiting this kind of behavior are found countless times at Board Game Arena, and that is because you are completely unable to impose sanctions.

Why do you make it so that leaving a game results in a karma reduction penalty, yet force me to suffer through these games for over an hour?

I want to play Catan at Board Game Arena.

Please read my post and do your job.

Please, please.



Please, please impose sanctions.

Please look at the gameplay I suffered in Catan.

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Please look at how they have been playing for such a long time.

Does it make sense that they are not receiving any sanctions while playing like that?

In a game like Catan that requires a long playtime,

I am forced to keep doing nothing but roll dice and pass turns, unable to do anything, yet the opponent refuses to end the game and toyes with me. Please, please monitor this.
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Re: I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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And what made me that way were two people who consistently acted as kingmakers. Not only now, but if you look at their records, they continuously act as kingmakers yet receive absolutely no sanctions.
Just red thumb them and move on.
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Re: I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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A meaningless 2 hours and 5 minutes of gameplay isn't that simple.

What if they had played for 10 hours instead of 2 hours and 5 minutes? I would have no choice but to be forced to leave the game and lose my karma again. I need to find a way other than Red Thumb.
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Re: I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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They didn't just engage in kingmaking. You will realize this if you read the text. They deliberately stalled for time. Through kingmaking, they could have won and finished the game within 15 minutes. However, for the remaining 1 hour and 50 minutes, they intentionally delayed ending the game and toyed with me, subjecting me to much mockery and insults. One player specifically picked only wood and brick lands and continuously blocked all my paths through nonsensical trades. I could no longer advance and was left doing nothing but meaninglessly rolling the dice and ending my turn.
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Re: I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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Even though he was the one at fault, he came into my activity log and plastered every record with false comments.
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Re: I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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The level of stuff in the comments on your activity is absurd. I would be surprised if there wasn't a case for harassment there, you should certainly report that in addition to the Red Thumbs.

I tried using the report function but the "where was this" option doesn't appear to cover this situation.

Is it worth thinking about changing the way you play? From the forum threads on these issues they seem much more common in realtime play. It seems people are not willing to put the effort in spread over a week or two in order to do this sort of stuff in Turn Based Games.

And it is much more difficult to effectively play kingmaker in 4 player games. Yes a 2 Vs 1 Vs 1 does have an advantage, but it is much smaller than in a simple 2 Vs 1 situation.
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Re: I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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Have you read the "Important Forum Moderation Notice"? Note that giving table numbers is also naming players...
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Re: I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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Yes, please edit your post such that the players are not identifyable.

Just explain what happened. If it is recent, others can often make an educated guess about the people anyways. But after some days one does not know about the names and that is important. The forum is no place to shame.

That being said, I reported the two players for being one account and cheating the ELO system and for bullying. I analyzed 2 games and I am quite sure that they get penalized by moderators. If my report is successful, I might add it here (anonymously ofc) in order to show how an efficient report about ELO cheating looks like. Often one can read in the forum that filling out moderation reports is useless but for me, all reports worked and lead to punishments...
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Re: I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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Thank you to everyone who provided answers. Since my English is very poor, I used automatic translation, which resulted in some sentences that I did not understand.

I am revising the post based on your feedback. (Table numbers and their names)
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Re: I played one game of Catan for two hours. With 2 vs 1 Kingmakers.

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daranub wrote: 18 May 2026, 14:25 Thank you to everyone who provided answers. Since my English is very poor, I used automatic translation, which resulted in some sentences that I did not understand.

I am revising the post based on your feedback. (Table numbers and their names)
Please do not even mention the letter their usernames are starting. Just call them player X and Y, not A...
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