team playing in CATAN, no reaction from BGA

[DmytroUA5]

Hi,

Why does BGA do nothing about team playing (collusion) in Catan? A good example is game table 871213026 (A***c and s***t) — these two players have played a lot of games together, forcing honest people to waste their time playing against cheaters. If an innocent player leaves such a game, he will get a penalty (lol). However, it makes no sense to play with people who only target you. For example, if you roll a 7 and attack one of them, the other player immediately uses a knight on the next turn to free their friend and attack you back.

All BGA offers is the option to block them. But this doesn't help other players who still have to face these teams, waste their time, and get zero pleasure from the game.

It also looks ridiculous that BGA grants achievements to such players.

I think that before a game starts, BGA should display extra statistics, similar to how they flag players sharing the same IP. For instance, they could show a metric like: "These 2 players have played X games together out of their last 10/20/30 matches." If it shows they played together 18 times out of the last 20 games, it would help others make the right decision and avoid the table.

[DmytroUA5]

If anyone wants to help the community ban the team players A***c and s***t (game table 871213026) — you are welcome to do so!

Please find them using the game board and block them with the reason 'team playing'. Maybe the BGA robot will block these accounts eventually, we will see.

Thank you in advance!

[Suoivax]

Hi,

Why does BGA do nothing about team playing (collusion) in Catan? A good example is********— they have played a lot of games together, forcing honest people to waste their time playing against cheaters. If an innocent player leaves such a game, they get a penalty (lol). However, it makes no sense to play with people who only target you. For example, if you roll a 7 and attack one of them, the other player immediately uses a knight on the next turn to free their friend and attack you back.

All BGA offers is the option to block them. But this doesn't help other players who still have to face these teams, waste their time, and get zero pleasure from the game.

It also looks ridiculous that BGA grants achievements to such players.

I think that before a game starts, BGA should display extra statistics, similar to how they flag players sharing the same IP. For instance, they could show a metric like: "These 2 players have played X games together out of their last 10/20/30 matches." If it shows they played together 18 times out of the last 20 games, it would help others make the right decision and avoid the table.

You should really read the sticky post about calling out people on the forums.

[DmytroUA5]

You should really read the sticky post about calling out people on the forums.

Thank you. I have modified my messages.

[Meeplelowda]

You should really read the sticky post about calling out people on the forums.

There should be a sticky post, because it happens all the time (especially in the Catan forum) and it's probably the most common source of forum moderation after profanity. But there isn't one. They don't even have the one about challenging a moderation in the Catan forum.

[CuriousGeorge19]

I complained to the mods about this and they docked me 50 karma points. I hope by the amount of complaints they are getting maybe they will actually do their jobs. Ive canceled all mine and families subscriptions until then. By posting half their names you could also get reported and docked 50 karma points. They punish the reporters and reward the cheaters its complete garbage

[CuriousGeorge19]

The one player always takes first. They have about 500 elo. So yeah this is absolutely King Making. I see you made a comment on their game calling them out - that's exactly what I did to a king maker and the mods took 50 karma from me because its "against the rules to shame people on their page" but its totally fine to cheat and be King makers.

[DmytroUA5]

just checked those guys, one of them is 3rd in Catan rating I think BGA should filtering such activity and do not give any achievements or rating for such players. Due to cheating

[euklid314]

just checked those guys, one of them is 3rd in Catan rating I think BGA should filtering such activity and do not give any achievements or rating for such players. Due to cheating

After your post on 22.6. I reported them for Elo cheating. Since then they have only played friendly, unranked games. Since this is hardly a coincidence they must have been moderated and they cannot join or start ranked Catan games since the moderation penalty.

Since they cheated over hundreds of games and unfairly gained 300 Elo points I am surprised that their Elo has not been reset to 100 but at least they cannot continue hurting other players. The moderation protects all other players. And even if #2 and #1 fall back behind them in ELO they will not get the ELO #1 trophy (because you have to actively play a game yourself that reaches #1).

Since I do not know how long their moderation will last I do monitor now and then if they continue their cheating. One needs to report again in this case.

Please note that only reporting a player causes a moderation penalty. Lamenting in the forums and posting messages on the player's personal wall only gets yourself moderated - and rightly so.

[twiddly2]

I get accused of collusion when someone who doesn't like getting robbed gets robbed by me more than once. I think the Kingmaking and team play accusations require definitive evidence from game logs and a report of the player. I don't think the moderators like it when players repeatedly call out other players in the forums when this is expressly prohibited. That said, I probably couldn't tell if there was collusion going on. Maybe if it was blatant enough.