Resource Die Rolls - Canteen Wrong?

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LittleNapolean
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Resource Die Rolls - Canteen Wrong?

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So I've been playing the 2nd Edition of this quite a bit on here lately, and when rolling the resource die I've been rolling the Canteen A LOT.

I know, random number generator. My real problem is that my canteen slots are usually full when I roll it and I get nothing.
In the 2nd Edition Rulebook on page 2, it lists the die faces and describes the rewards. The Canteen picture says one should get a canteen OR swap a resource for a photo. That does not happen in the BGA version.

Can somebody fix this? I'm tired of swearing at my screen...for this reason.

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Kayvon
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Re: Resource Die Rolls - Canteen Wrong?

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LittleNapolean wrote: 08 July 2026, 20:36 Can somebody fix this?
Nope, because it's not broken.

I just looked at the code. It grabs a random number from BGA between 1 and 6. If it rolls a 5, that's a canteen.

I know this is disappointing, but that's how random numbers roll. In case you're worried that BGA's algorithm is unbalanced, here's an analysis of half a million random numbers pulled from BGA:
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Re: Resource Die Rolls - Canteen Wrong?

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Kayvon wrote: 09 July 2026, 00:17 Nope, because it's not broken.

I just looked at the code. It grabs a random number from BGA between 1 and 6. If it rolls a 5, that's a canteen.
I think they didn't claim that the RNG was broken but the reward.
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Re: Resource Die Rolls - Canteen Wrong?

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Silene wrote: 09 July 2026, 03:23
Kayvon wrote: 09 July 2026, 00:17 Nope, because it's not broken.

I just looked at the code. It grabs a random number from BGA between 1 and 6. If it rolls a 5, that's a canteen.
I think they didn't claim that the RNG was broken but the reward.
Yes, well, that's why I started with "I just looked at the code" and confirmed that the Parks code is not broken.

Then, surmising that the next fallback would be the BGA random algorithm, I covered that.
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Kayvon wrote: 09 July 2026, 03:28
Silene wrote: 09 July 2026, 03:23
Kayvon wrote: 09 July 2026, 00:17 Nope, because it's not broken.

I just looked at the code. It grabs a random number from BGA between 1 and 6. If it rolls a 5, that's a canteen.
I think they didn't claim that the RNG was broken but the reward.
Yes, well, that's why I started with "I just looked at the code" and confirmed that the Parks code is not broken.

Then, surmising that the next fallback would be the BGA random algorithm, I covered that.
The poster is suggesting that the effect of that face is, per the rulebook, "gain a Canteen OR swap a resource for a photo."
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That makes sense. He should consider filing a formal bug report using the link at the top of the page and including a rules citation.
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Re: Resource Die Rolls - Canteen Wrong?

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Kayvon wrote: 09 July 2026, 03:28
Silene wrote: 09 July 2026, 03:23
Kayvon wrote: 09 July 2026, 00:17 Nope, because it's not broken.

I just looked at the code. It grabs a random number from BGA between 1 and 6. If it rolls a 5, that's a canteen.
I think they didn't claim that the RNG was broken but the reward.
Yes, well, that's why I started with "I just looked at the code" and confirmed that the Parks code is not broken.

Then, surmising that the next fallback would be the BGA random algorithm, I covered that.
Well - but your response was completely unrelated to what they were claiming ;)

I looked into the rulebook and this picture on page 2 could be seen as a reference for the meaning of the die-faces:

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But nowhere in the explanation of how to handle the dice-rolls is it ever referenced. But there is a reference "as shown below" in the Shutterbug Token section. So I guess what the picture shows should only be used for that.

So it's not a Bug - just a rules misinterpretation. Tough one ;)
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Re: Resource Die Rolls - Canteen Wrong?

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OP here.

Yep. The solution has been found. User error.
I misread the rulebook (probably through wishful thinking).

The die roll does just have the chance of giving you nothing if you are full up on your canteens.

Thanks for all the replies!
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