UI improvment for not spoiling Sabotage

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lonnsjo-tommy
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UI improvment for not spoiling Sabotage

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The acenario for this is when you play an action card and another player have Sabotage, the timer will start spinning on that player. Spoiling the suprise that you have it.

My suggestion is that everybodys timer should start spinning and the log should only say that "Player passed". It should be a few simple When and If statment to fix it but I dont know how its setup so...
This could be done for other card as well like Experimental Battle station and such.

Whats your take on it?
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GTSchemer
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Re: UI improvment for not spoiling Sabotage

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lonnsjo-tommy wrote: 11 August 2026, 15:32 The acenario for this is when you play an action card and another player have Sabotage, the timer will start spinning on that player. Spoiling the suprise that you have it.

My suggestion is that everybodys timer should start spinning and the log should only say that "Player passed". It should be a few simple When and If statment to fix it but I dont know how its setup so...
This could be done for other card as well like Experimental Battle station and such.

Whats your take on it?
I understand the frustration, but the BGA framework does not support this without burning timers for all players which could lead to abuse.

The FAQ talks about the complexity of this issue and why the current approach is used: https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=144240


"Q. Why does only one player wake up for Sabotage? It gives away that they have it.
A. This is a compromise to keep turn-based games moving. Advanced players can enable bluffing, but if all players always woke up, it could add a huge amount of time to each game.

If you are curious about this topic, please review the details here: https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=177437

And also here: https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=175847"
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Re: UI improvment for not spoiling Sabotage

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By the way, in one of my current games I just had a space combat take several days, maybe a week, because we needed to play 3+ action cards and 2 other players woke up for every single card.

Advanced players can even simulate this situation by using the Alerts tab to creates a custom alert when any player plays a card, effectively bluffing that they have Sabotage. However, if all players do this it will cause a LARGE increase in game time with international players.
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SushiMaster5000
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Re: UI improvment for not spoiling Sabotage

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An option to temporarily silent your sabotage card for the current activating would be nice if it’s involving other factions. Space battles are brutally slow with that card.
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Re: UI improvment for not spoiling Sabotage

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SushiMaster5000 wrote: 11 August 2026, 23:31 An option to temporarily silent your sabotage card for the current activating would be nice if it’s involving other factions. Space battles are brutally slow with that card.
There's a way to do that for advanced alerts but maybe it should be easier.
lonnsjo-tommy
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Re: UI improvment for not spoiling Sabotage

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GTSchemer wrote: 11 August 2026, 16:12
lonnsjo-tommy wrote: 11 August 2026, 15:32 The acenario for this is when you play an action card and another player have Sabotage, the timer will start spinning on that player. Spoiling the suprise that you have it.

My suggestion is that everybodys timer should start spinning and the log should only say that "Player passed". It should be a few simple When and If statment to fix it but I dont know how its setup so...
This could be done for other card as well like Experimental Battle station and such.

Whats your take on it?
I understand the frustration, but the BGA framework does not support this without burning timers for all players which could lead to abuse.

The FAQ talks about the complexity of this issue and why the current approach is used: https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=144240


"Q. Why does only one player wake up for Sabotage? It gives away that they have it.
A. This is a compromise to keep turn-based games moving. Advanced players can enable bluffing, but if all players always woke up, it could add a huge amount of time to each game.

If you are curious about this topic, please review the details here: https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=177437

And also here: https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=175847"
Thank you for an awesome reply. I will lookk into the links a bit more :)
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