This Tutorial Is Terribly Misleading!

[Yuhuangdadi]

I can’t believe the tutorial walks players through purchasing jokers and handing scrolls directly to opponents, which are ridiculously inefficient! Worse still, it fails to cover how noble cards work or the stealing mechanic—these core tactics are genuinely powerful, yet the guide completely overlooks them. This tutorial is a disaster! Awful!

[Jellby]

The tutorial should show the rules, not the strategy.

[Doctor Dottore]

I cannot agree more! The tutorial even teaches the player to buy 41 joker with 4 black tokens and a pearl at the very beginning of the game, which is obviously non-sense. Worse still, it teaches you to pick three black tokens and give a privilege freely to your opponent and then buy 41 joker, which misleads the new player to focus on these REALLY INEFFICIENT and USELESS jokers.

[Meeplelowda]

I can’t believe the tutorial walks players through purchasing jokers and handing scrolls directly to opponents, which are ridiculously inefficient! Worse still, it fails to cover how noble cards work or the stealing mechanic—these core tactics are genuinely powerful, yet the guide completely overlooks them. This tutorial is a disaster! Awful!

I cannot agree more! The tutorial even teaches the player to buy 41 joker with 4 black tokens and a pearl at the very beginning of the game, which is obviously non-sense. Worse still, it teaches you to pick three black tokens and give a privilege freely to your opponent and then buy 41 joker, which misleads the new player to focus on these REALLY INEFFICIENT and USELESS jokers.

You just completely ignored Jellby's comment that the purpose of tutorials are to introduce you to the rules of the game. Period. A side benefit is that it shows you how the interface works so you can get used to it before you have to use it in a live game.

They are not strategy tutorials. In fact, the guide for building tutorials EXPLICITLY SAYS:

Focus on rules, not on strategy tips

For the most part, they are neither produced by BGA nor the developers of the game. They are created by community members. A great number are produced by Nekonyancer who volunteers untold hours creating them.

If you are unsatisfied with their work, have at it: https://boardgamearena.com/tutorialfaq

It's sad that we have two people whose very first forum posts were not about positivity, but instead were used to trash the volunteer work of someone who has contributed greatly to the BGA community, and one of the critiques was about not doing something they aren't even supposed to be focused on. It's fair to comment on rules that they got wrong or were overlooked. But the tone of this was mostly about trashing the work, I guess because you assumed that it was done by BGA so you thought it's ok to be a jerk about it?

[erndra]

I can’t believe the tutorial walks players through purchasing jokers and handing scrolls directly to opponents, which are ridiculously inefficient! Worse still, it fails to cover how noble cards work or the stealing mechanic—these core tactics are genuinely powerful, yet the guide completely overlooks them. This tutorial is a disaster! Awful!

I cannot agree more! The tutorial even teaches the player to buy 41 joker with 4 black tokens and a pearl at the very beginning of the game, which is obviously non-sense. Worse still, it teaches you to pick three black tokens and give a privilege freely to your opponent and then buy 41 joker, which misleads the new player to focus on these REALLY INEFFICIENT and USELESS jokers.

You just completely ignored Jellby's comment that the purpose of tutorials are to introduce you to the rules of the game. Period. A side benefit is that it shows you how the interface works so you can get used to it before you have to use it in a live game.

They are not strategy tutorials. In fact, the guide for building tutorials EXPLICITLY SAYS:

Focus on rules, not on strategy tips

For the most part, they are neither produced by BGA nor the developers of the game. They are created by community members. A great number are produced by Nekonyancer who volunteers untold hours creating them.

If you are unsatisfied with their work, have at it: https://boardgamearena.com/tutorialfaq

It's sad that we have two people whose very first forum posts were not about positivity, but instead were used to trash the volunteer work of someone who has contributed greatly to the BGA community, and one of the critiques was about not doing something they aren't even supposed to be focused on. It's fair to comment on rules that they got wrong or were overlooked. But the tone of this was mostly about trashing the work, I guess because you assumed that it was done by BGA so you thought it's ok to be a jerk about it?

Well said.

[T72on1]

I can’t believe the tutorial walks players through purchasing jokers and handing scrolls directly to opponents, which are ridiculously inefficient! Worse still, it fails to cover how noble cards work or the stealing mechanic—these core tactics are genuinely powerful, yet the guide completely overlooks them. This tutorial is a disaster! Awful!

I cannot agree more! The tutorial even teaches the player to buy 41 joker with 4 black tokens and a pearl at the very beginning of the game, which is obviously non-sense. Worse still, it teaches you to pick three black tokens and give a privilege freely to your opponent and then buy 41 joker, which misleads the new player to focus on these REALLY INEFFICIENT and USELESS jokers.

You just completely ignored Jellby's comment that the purpose of tutorials are to introduce you to the rules of the game. Period. A side benefit is that it shows you how the interface works so you can get used to it before you have to use it in a live game.

They are not strategy tutorials. In fact, the guide for building tutorials EXPLICITLY SAYS:

Focus on rules, not on strategy tips

For the most part, they are neither produced by BGA nor the developers of the game. They are created by community members. A great number are produced by Nekonyancer who volunteers untold hours creating them.

If you are unsatisfied with their work, have at it: https://boardgamearena.com/tutorialfaq

It's sad that we have two people whose very first forum posts were not about positivity, but instead were used to trash the volunteer work of someone who has contributed greatly to the BGA community, and one of the critiques was about not doing something they aren't even supposed to be focused on. It's fair to comment on rules that they got wrong or were overlooked. But the tone of this was mostly about trashing the work, I guess because you assumed that it was done by BGA so you thought it's ok to be a jerk about it?

Well said indeed!

[mcgeo]

I can’t believe the tutorial walks players through purchasing jokers and handing scrolls directly to opponents, which are ridiculously inefficient! Worse still, it fails to cover how noble cards work or the stealing mechanic—these core tactics are genuinely powerful, yet the guide completely overlooks them. This tutorial is a disaster! Awful!

I cannot agree more! The tutorial even teaches the player to buy 41 joker with 4 black tokens and a pearl at the very beginning of the game, which is obviously non-sense. Worse still, it teaches you to pick three black tokens and give a privilege freely to your opponent and then buy 41 joker, which misleads the new player to focus on these REALLY INEFFICIENT and USELESS jokers.

You just completely ignored Jellby's comment that the purpose of tutorials are to introduce you to the rules of the game. Period. A side benefit is that it shows you how the interface works so you can get used to it before you have to use it in a live game.

They are not strategy tutorials. In fact, the guide for building tutorials EXPLICITLY SAYS:

Focus on rules, not on strategy tips

For the most part, they are neither produced by BGA nor the developers of the game. They are created by community members. A great number are produced by Nekonyancer who volunteers untold hours creating them.

If you are unsatisfied with their work, have at it: https://boardgamearena.com/tutorialfaq

It's sad that we have two people whose very first forum posts were not about positivity, but instead were used to trash the volunteer work of someone who has contributed greatly to the BGA community, and one of the critiques was about not doing something they aren't even supposed to be focused on. It's fair to comment on rules that they got wrong or were overlooked. But the tone of this was mostly about trashing the work, I guess because you assumed that it was done by BGA so you thought it's ok to be a jerk about it?

Agreed as well, but I'm not surprised by this behavior. I'm pretty sure Yuhuangdadi and Doctor Dottore are the same person. I had my suspicions because they both write Chinese and the way they behave, but two comments on the same post within a day is too close to be a coincidence. This person also has a third account. Yuhuangdadi watched me play a few games (or should I say stalked me?) then messaged me the next day in the middle of a Ticket to Ride game because he wanted to challenge me to a game of Splendor Duel. Not a private message, he interrupted me in the middle of a game he is spectating at to challenge me to a different game. This was our first ever interaction and he had the audacity to interrupt a game.

On a different occasion, I was playing Splendor Duel with someone else and Doctor Dottore came in as a spectator and spoke rudely to the other player. According to him, she lost to him last round and tried to get him blacklisted? Don't know the whole story, the other person never responded to him and I didn't ask.

My point is he doesn't seem like a pleasant person from my interactions with him.