When do the top players usually play ?

[Hippostar]

Does anyone know what times the top players tend to play 7 Wonders on BGA ?

I've joined one week ago and so far I haven't managed to play against anyone from the Top 100.
I'd actually like to face the strongest players, so I'm wondering: what times do the Top 100 — and especially the Top 20 — tend to play ?
Are there particular days or time slots when the top-ranked players are more active ?


Feel free to give times in your own timezone.

Thanks !

[puzzlereed]

Most of the top ten players play in arena or tournaments and sometimes they just play but thats less likely there's not really a time slot

[Hippostar]

In fact they do not play since weeks. I've only met Koshk and Faber182 these days.

So, no chance to become better.

[swibat]

I disagree. Facing good players helps with learning the basic stuff, but watching their replays closely, trying to predict their moves, helps more (and you don't need to wait for them). But getting really good at this game actually only happens when you can win fairly consistently against weak and unpredictable players, which is actually very hard !

As someone who is currently at the bottom of top 100 and managed to get 500 elo one time (but it was kind of an accident frankly), let me say that sometimes loss aversion gets high in this game. The randomness is not that high but still there and there are kingmaking issues that makes playing against <300 elo (and sometimes the threshold is even higher) very scary. Not a rewarding experience. It happens when I'm in the mood but it's not frequent. I can't talk for anyone else of course.

At your current rating, however, if you play often enough you will encounter strong players fairly easily. Be patient.
Alternatively, play early arena. First days each season, just grind it. You will face them for sure!

[Hippostar]

I disagree. Facing good players helps with learning the basic stuff, but watching their replays closely, trying to predict their moves, helps more (and you don't need to wait for them). But getting really good at this game actually only happens when you can win fairly consistently against weak and unpredictable players, which is actually very hard !

As someone who is currently at the bottom of top 100 and managed to get 500 elo one time (but it was kind of an accident frankly), let me say that sometimes loss aversion gets high in this game. The randomness is not that high but still there and there are kingmaking issues that makes playing against <300 elo (and sometimes the threshold is even higher) very scary. Not a rewarding experience. It happens when I'm in the mood but it's not frequent. I can't talk for anyone else of course.

At your current rating, however, if you play often enough you will encounter strong players fairly easily. Be patient.
Alternatively, play early arena. First days each season, just grind it. You will face them for sure!

Thank you for the tip of replay. Unpredictable players as teachers... how it works ? There are no lessons in random, only luck or unluck. I find no challenge in this. I prefer losing against expert than winning a random game

[swibat]

The thing is it's not completely random. You will lose some messy games, but it's an art to not lose in tough situations against unreliable plays that you have trouble anticipating.

[losbrugno]

I disagree. Facing good players helps with learning the basic stuff, but watching their replays closely, trying to predict their moves, helps more (and you don't need to wait for them). But getting really good at this game actually only happens when you can win fairly consistently against weak and unpredictable players, which is actually very hard !

As someone who is currently at the bottom of top 100 and managed to get 500 elo one time (but it was kind of an accident frankly), let me say that sometimes loss aversion gets high in this game. The randomness is not that high but still there and there are kingmaking issues that makes playing against <300 elo (and sometimes the threshold is even higher) very scary. Not a rewarding experience. It happens when I'm in the mood but it's not frequent. I can't talk for anyone else of course.

At your current rating, however, if you play often enough you will encounter strong players fairly easily. Be patient.
Alternatively, play early arena. First days each season, just grind it. You will face them for sure!

Thank you for the tip of replay. Unpredictable players as teachers... how it works ? There are no lessons in random, only luck or unluck. I find no challenge in this. I prefer losing against expert than winning a random game

Because the game is not a perfect algorithm, you could play your absolute best game but there could be another player at the table that unintentionally hides cards that you were expecting to come back to you for example, or maybe somebody just lacks experience to understand the position, the priorities at the table and so on, so all these little things that maybe a casual player could not notice tend to create a lore more uncertainty and variability at the table, whilst in a high level table generally everyone is iper vigile to what's happening to everybody and eventually the winner is the one who got the best value out of every hand, including anticipating plays, the ability to adapt to the table and disrupting plays.
Playing against good players is more difficult, but playing against medium-low players can sometimes be very frustrating.

Of course nothing personal against casual players, I'm just answering to your point from the point of view of someone who consider himself a player above the average.