Given the post they quoted has "But if in a lost situation you play on and on for a while and then resign just before counting points, then that would be a bit rude. When you missed the chance to resign politely earlier, then you should at least finish the count to reveal the exact score." I think the score they refer to is the score in the Go game itself. Don't know if the person they asked will reply to such a necrobump though.Meeplelowda wrote: ↑18 August 2025, 07:38If by "score" you mean the respective ELO adjustments for each player, then no.
Note, this is different from someone quitting the game or being expelled after running out of time. In that case your ELO gain is scaled by the percentage of the game that had been completed. How that percentage is calculated is up to the game developer.
Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
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Re: Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
- Meeplelowda
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Re: Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
Good point. I'd originally written a response assuming that's what they meant, but then decided I misunderstood them and edited it because it seemed obvious that for a game that actually keeps a score, if you had continued the game the score would likely have changed. I didn't consider the specific edge case that conceding happens between all substantive moves being made, but before the game tallies the final score.Ceaseless wrote: ↑18 August 2025, 19:44Given the post they quoted has "But if in a lost situation you play on and on for a while and then resign just before counting points, then that would be a bit rude. When you missed the chance to resign politely earlier, then you should at least finish the count to reveal the exact score." I think the score they refer to is the score in the Go game itself. Don't know if the person they asked will reply to such a necrobump though.Meeplelowda wrote: ↑18 August 2025, 07:38If by "score" you mean the respective ELO adjustments for each player, then no.
Note, this is different from someone quitting the game or being expelled after running out of time. In that case your ELO gain is scaled by the percentage of the game that had been completed. How that percentage is calculated is up to the game developer.
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- smattathias
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Re: Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
You did nothing wrong. You owe nothing to a stranger.
If you establish a regular gaming routine with someone, you will develop a sense of whether to concede early or go until the final move. In that case, you’ll know with certainty which is appropriate.
If you establish a regular gaming routine with someone, you will develop a sense of whether to concede early or go until the final move. In that case, you’ll know with certainty which is appropriate.
Re: Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
As a hobby Go player, I can also confirm this. In Japan at least, it considered an outright insult if you don't concede in an obviously lost game because with playing on, you state that you believe that your opponent will make a weak move soon.Meeplelowda wrote: ↑13 July 2020, 08:07 I've only played 3 games total, so I wouldn't have recognized that it was a losing position before the point when I did. But I've played thousands of games of chess, and never have I seen someone complain that they were not allowed to make the final checkmate. To the contrary, it is widely viewed as rude if you don't concede (resign) in an obviously lost position, e.g. Queen and Rook vs. no material with no time pressure. So this "finishing move" obsession seems funny to me.
In Hive, I have seen it as polite if you kill yourself in an inescapable situation.
I personally see conceding in Hive as a double-edged sword. Conceding is noble because it shows strong character to acknowledge your own defeat, but I also quite often was able to crawl out of seemingly hopeless situations by fighting on like a mad dog.
Re: Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
Conceding the same is good if the outcome is clear. It's especially useful if the win of the opponent is trivial but would still take multiple moves. I often concede (aka resign) in chess or in Quoridor when the outcome is clear enough. I don't understand why would anyone complain when a player concedes a game.
I'd say it's the opposite which is annoying, i.e. when a player continues a game despite the outcome being very clear.
I'd say it's the opposite which is annoying, i.e. when a player continues a game despite the outcome being very clear.
- Oshikureto
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Re: Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
I only concede if it's too obvious I'm losing and if the mate sequence is obvious such as a mate in 1 I do it myself and I noticed most of my opponents do the same (on hive dot com at least)
I resign mid game if I really don't have any good moves and it's obvious I'm going to lose anyways because most my pieces have been paralyzed or countered
I don't think it's unpolite at all, it saves everyone's time.
I resign mid game if I really don't have any good moves and it's obvious I'm going to lose anyways because most my pieces have been paralyzed or countered
I don't think it's unpolite at all, it saves everyone's time.
Re: Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
Simple solution - just communicate with your opponent. If they say yes, concede, if not, then play it out as you agreed to by starting a game.
Re: Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
An even simpler solution, concede if you want to. You have played out the game as agreed. You do not have to put this on the other player. If you want a discussion, feel free to start one, but don't feel as though you are forced to either.
Re: Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
Why be kind when you can be selfish? Geez.
Re: Is Conceding Allowable Etiquette?
It does seem rather selfish to force players to ask for permission to concede, which is one of the reasons for my position. I do not require that they waste my time asking, nor do I feel the need to leash them to a game they no longer want to make more moves in. If they want to ask first, they can ask. If they want to resign, they can resign. I am not so selfish that I would force them to follow my whims.lefalaf wrote: ↑05 September 2026, 23:03Why be kind when you can be selfish? Geez.