Catan dice throws

Forum rules
Please DO NOT POST BUGS on this forum. Please report (and vote) bugs on : https://boardgamearena.com/bugs
User avatar
Paddles
Posts: 104
Joined: 25 March 2012, 12:04

Re: Catan dice throws

Post by Paddles »

Sphoenx wrote: ↑25 September 2026, 05:08 Dice roll rigged. system chooses the winner on the first few rolls. you will notice that there is a certain player who gets the dice to always roll his resources, even if its a 2 or 11. we even lose to a player who only have 3s and 11s because it rolls the 3s and 11s three times more than the 8s and 6s. better yet remove what you were saying that it rolls more for 6 and 8 thats why they are red, buts its not true with this RIGGED SYSTEM.
You do realise that if one player happens to get more resources in the early rounds because of the rolls, that does give them an advantage that increases their chance of winning the entire game? That doesn't mean anything is rigged, just the predictable consequences of unpredicted initial luck.

So can you share your data set showing this? How is the system supposedly selecting the winner? Where is your collected data that shows the dice are not conforming to expected distributions of rolls over the long term? (The behaviour of the dice in a single game is statistically insignificant.) If you don't have data to share that can be analysed meaningfully, then all you've got is an unremarkable anecdote, which we've seen so many times before. So far, no one's claims of rigged dice have stood up to any analysis.

Image
FromLardToHard
Posts: 21
Joined: 20 November 2023, 18:25

Re: Catan dice throws

Post by FromLardToHard »

Sphoenx wrote: ↑25 September 2026, 05:08 Dice roll rigged. system chooses the winner on the first few rolls. you will notice that there is a certain player who gets the dice to always roll his resources, even if its a 2 or 11. we even lose to a player who only have 3s and 11s because it rolls the 3s and 11s three times more than the 8s and 6s. better yet remove what you were saying that it rolls more for 6 and 8 thats why they are red, buts its not true with this RIGGED SYSTEM.
This is why I have cancelled my Premium Subscription. The Algo is garbage and the developers and other refuse to believe it. Not just the Dice, Spies come out at the same time. Same with Inventor coming out together. If you get a spy and someone else gets a blue card you play it and 9 times out of 10 the Spy is in the other players hand.
FromLardToHard
Posts: 21
Joined: 20 November 2023, 18:25

Re: Catan dice throws

Post by FromLardToHard »

Paddles wrote: ↑25 September 2026, 09:36
Sphoenx wrote: ↑25 September 2026, 05:08 Dice roll rigged. system chooses the winner on the first few rolls. you will notice that there is a certain player who gets the dice to always roll his resources, even if its a 2 or 11. we even lose to a player who only have 3s and 11s because it rolls the 3s and 11s three times more than the 8s and 6s. better yet remove what you were saying that it rolls more for 6 and 8 thats why they are red, buts its not true with this RIGGED SYSTEM.
You do realise that if one player happens to get more resources in the early rounds because of the rolls, that does give them an advantage that increases their chance of winning the entire game? That doesn't mean anything is rigged, just the predictable consequences of unpredicted initial luck.

So can you share your data set showing this? How is the system supposedly selecting the winner? Where is your collected data that shows the dice are not conforming to expected distributions of rolls over the long term? (The behaviour of the dice in a single game is statistically insignificant.) If you don't have data to share that can be analysed meaningfully, then all you've got is an unremarkable anecdote, which we've seen so many times before. So far, no one's claims of rigged dice have stood up to any analysis.

Image
Being obtuse on purpose is not a very good look. No one has to share it. When a player has the worst spots but the Algo keeps feeding them 3s and 11s it is very obvious the Algo has picked already.

EVERYONE knows the algo is trash. Spies come out at the same time. Inventors do to. The Developers are trying to balance the game, but just cause other problems.
User avatar
Suoivax
Posts: 380
Joined: 13 April 2022, 00:27

Re: Catan dice throws

Post by Suoivax »

FromLardToHard wrote: ↑08 October 2026, 22:29
Sphoenx wrote: ↑25 September 2026, 05:08 Dice roll rigged. system chooses the winner on the first few rolls. you will notice that there is a certain player who gets the dice to always roll his resources, even if its a 2 or 11. we even lose to a player who only have 3s and 11s because it rolls the 3s and 11s three times more than the 8s and 6s. better yet remove what you were saying that it rolls more for 6 and 8 thats why they are red, buts its not true with this RIGGED SYSTEM.
This is why I have cancelled my Premium Subscription. The Algo is garbage and the developers and other refuse to believe it. Not just the Dice, Spies come out at the same time. Same with Inventor coming out together. If you get a spy and someone else gets a blue card you play it and 9 times out of 10 the Spy is in the other players hand.
show your work
User avatar
Paddles
Posts: 104
Joined: 25 March 2012, 12:04

Re: Catan dice throws

Post by Paddles »

FromLardToHard wrote: ↑08 October 2026, 22:32 Being obtuse on purpose is not a very good look. No one has to share it. When a player has the worst spots but the Algo keeps feeding them 3s and 11s it is very obvious the Algo has picked already.

EVERYONE knows the algo is trash. Spies come out at the same time. Inventors do to. The Developers are trying to balance the game, but just cause other problems.
Resorting to ad hominem attacks and other rhetological fallacies is a far worse look.

You assert "When .... it is very obvious that ..." - but it isn't obvious. I - and multiple other people in this thread - can think of and have mentioned far more plausible explanations.

You assert "EVERYONE knows the algo is trash." but your assertion is demonstrably false, from the numerous posters here that have openly shared their disagreement. I've been the victim of bad luck on BGA dice rolls just like anyone else, but I've also been the victim of bad luck from dice rolls coming from the ordinary dice supplied with my own copies of Catan base and C&K, and from card decks that I personally shuffled.

You claim in one breath "the Algo has picked [a winner] already" but then contradict yourself by saying the developers are trying to balance the game. Are they trying to balance it or unbalance it? Before that you made the contradictory remark by saying "The Algo is garbage and the developers and other refuse to believe it". Which is it? Have the developers chosen to set the algorithm to balance the game, or is the algorithm something they can't see, understand or test?

You've made an assertion that contradicts the simplest explanation/null hypothesis, with nothing but a couple of anecdotes as evidence and self-contradictory explanations for what is going on. It's incumbent on you to provide supporting evidence, not for us to just shrug our shoulders and agree "hey this algorithm that is used to protect billion-dollar-scale secrets is fundamentally broken because someone on BGA said so".
Post Reply

Return to “Catan”