Proof That Bga Dice Aren’t Random

[ChiefPointThief]

Have you ever prayed before drawing the next card? Or blew on the dice before rolling? Well there is no need! “Just Bribe Alex”! Who is Alex you may ask? Alex is the guy who has taken over management at bga and there are rumors. Word is that if you slip him some money maybe your luck will change! Who needs luck when you have money? To go along w/ the holiday season approaching this time around the theming will be gifts instead of money.

What is this? Just one of many fun themed team tournaments I organize. This one only features games w/ a luck rating of 4 or better. Not your cup of tea? Well there are fun themed tournaments organized year round that may suit you better! Join this group
https://boardgamearena.com/group?id=21821197

What is my proof that the dice arent random? Well, my team had the most premium members the 1st time I ran this competition and won. Coincidence? I think not!

[ChiefPointThief]

Which luck based games on bga do you think are the most fun?
Which luck based games have the most depth?
(Remember must have at least 4 luck rating)

[Jellby]

(Remember must have at least 4 luck rating)

Where? In BGA? Remember the game ratings are mostly random

[ChiefPointThief]

(Remember must have at least 4 luck rating)

Where? In BGA? Remember the game ratings are mostly random

Yes. And I understand that. Just trying to prevent ppl naming games that actually only have 1 luck rating but they swear it’s extremely luck based . If there isn’t some criteria it gets out of hand lol.

[lefalaf]

(Remember must have at least 4 luck rating)

Where? In BGA? Remember the game ratings are mostly random

Yes. And I understand that. Just trying to prevent ppl naming games that actually only have 1 luck rating but they swear it’s extremely luck based . If there isn’t some criteria it gets out of hand lol.

They might have meant what is a "1 luck" rating? What is a "4 luck" rating. I do not see a degree of luck scale on BGG or BGA.

[tbhp]

Luck ratings seem weirdly assigned in many cases.

For example, games where your success depends on making the same choices as the other players should have much higher luck factors, because if you end up in a game where everyone makes weird choices, you can end up losing through no fault of your own, which is something impossible to predict.

Then there are games that contain random elements that seem to be given high luck factors for that reason, even though they involve more skill and offer more control over the outcome than certain games where there's not as many random elements.

Basically it seems the people who decide the ratings just look at how much randomness there is in a game, without applying any critical thinking as to how this actually affects the luck factor.

Just looking at the Elo distribution of a game would give a much more accurate estimate of what the luck factor is.

[lefalaf]

Where? In BGA? Remember the game ratings are mostly random

Yes. And I understand that. Just trying to prevent ppl naming games that actually only have 1 luck rating but they swear it’s extremely luck based . If there isn’t some criteria it gets out of hand lol.

They might have meant what is a "1 luck" rating? What is a "4 luck" rating. I do not see a degree of luck scale on BGG or BGA.

I see it's on the game page in the box with some basic info like year released. No way to filter on it that I see.

To thbp's point, looking randomly, TTR, Wingspan, and Azul all have 3 luck, which seems high for them. 2 might be more appropriate. Ark Nova has a 1, but 2 might be better there too. 1 would seem to be more appropriate for games with zero dice, zero luck of the draw, etc.

[Strode]

Yes. And I understand that. Just trying to prevent ppl naming games that actually only have 1 luck rating but they swear it’s extremely luck based . If there isn’t some criteria it gets out of hand lol.

They might have meant what is a "1 luck" rating? What is a "4 luck" rating. I do not see a degree of luck scale on BGG or BGA.

I see it's on the game page in the box with some basic info like year released. No way to filter on it that I see.

To thbp's point, looking randomly, TTR, Wingspan, and Azul all have 3 luck, which seems high for them. 2 might be more appropriate. Ark Nova has a 1, but 2 might be better there too. 1 would seem to be more appropriate for games with zero dice, zero luck of the draw, etc.

Wingspan is rated a 3 for all metrics (including Interaction), which is usually a sign that the defaults were never changed.

Azul has a 1 for complexity, so someone did set it to 3 luck.

[Ceaseless]

Yes. And I understand that. Just trying to prevent ppl naming games that actually only have 1 luck rating but they swear it’s extremely luck based . If there isn’t some criteria it gets out of hand lol.

They might have meant what is a "1 luck" rating? What is a "4 luck" rating. I do not see a degree of luck scale on BGG or BGA.

I see it's on the game page in the box with some basic info like year released. No way to filter on it that I see.

To thbp's point, looking randomly, TTR, Wingspan, and Azul all have 3 luck, which seems high for them. 2 might be more appropriate. Ark Nova has a 1, but 2 might be better there too. 1 would seem to be more appropriate for games with zero dice, zero luck of the draw, etc.

Though even among those 3, their luck factors are on different tiers, Azul is probably the least luck dependent of the three, followed by Ticket to Ride, and finally Wingspan probably takes the most luck of the lot. While I might speculate it's around Azul's level, I can't speak for Ark Nova though.

[lefalaf]

They might have meant what is a "1 luck" rating? What is a "4 luck" rating. I do not see a degree of luck scale on BGG or BGA.

I see it's on the game page in the box with some basic info like year released. No way to filter on it that I see.

To thbp's point, looking randomly, TTR, Wingspan, and Azul all have 3 luck, which seems high for them. 2 might be more appropriate. Ark Nova has a 1, but 2 might be better there too. 1 would seem to be more appropriate for games with zero dice, zero luck of the draw, etc.

Though even among those 3, their luck factors are on different tiers, Azul is probably the least luck dependent of the three, followed by Ticket to Ride, and finally Wingspan probably takes the most luck of the lot. While I might speculate it's around Azul's level, I can't speak for Ark Nova though.

Certainly, and your breakdown ordering seems reasonable, although I don't know Ark and Wingspan as much as I do TTR and Azul.

It's just when there are only 4 levels (I think), there isn't much room. 1 would be Go, Quoridor, etc., 3 might be a lot of games with dice and/or cards that are lighter on strategy, 4 would be Martian Dice. But there's be a big range within the levels with so much variety around. Where to draw the lines being a bit subjective.