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fat4lity
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Opponent expelled me when he realized he was losing

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Hi guys,
So I was playing this tournament game and was matched against this opponent. He kept making moves late in the night(according to the tournament timezone) as a result I started to run out of time. Towards the end, I requested him on game chat to set a time of his choosing at which I would make myself available and finish the game. He didn't respond. I was close to running out of time. I observed that he wouldn't make his move when both he and I were online and would wait till an hour or so after I had gone offline. When I caught on to that he resumed his pattern of late night moves. It came to such that I set up late late night alarms just to check if he had played. I managed to stretch my last 1 hour of time into 4 moves, waking up at 3:30 or 4am to make my moves. However, as was inevitable, I ran out of time. He let the game continue till he thought he was winning. As soon as I made my result altering move, he skipped my turns and expelled me from the game.

I know he is well within his rights to do so, but this isn't sporting, in fact I would say its downright unethical.

The question, I have, is - What can I do about this? I reported the player, but no-one will probably look at that feedback(it mentions its the lowest priority category of reporting)
I tried posting on the player page or the tournament page or the game result page - however as it turns out I need 80% rating to do that. Irony of ironies, I dropped below 80% due to this very game.

I have red thumbed him to ensure that I never play against him, but I really think there should be some mechanism wherein I can warn other players about how he "games" the system.

Will appreciate any advice. I know I have to move on, but its really frustrating.

Thanks for reading.
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Re: Opponent expelled me when he realized he was losing

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It happens allot. Those players win by purposly avoiding the player and making them run out of time. Annoying. I would kick a player in a live game, but never in a turn based one. No matter who is winning.


But some people just want to win no matter what. Even by unethical methods. I would suggest you when you play against someone like that, check your game every hour and try to make him run out of time.
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Re: Opponent expelled me when he realized he was losing

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If you know your time zone not popular on BGA you should try to join games with bigger time limit. Also if your game is affected by time limit bug (like Race for the Galaxy, Seasons, Takenoko) you should doulbe your comfort time limit.
Also I agree that a player who intentionally use time limit to run you out of time and win the game should be punished. But don't know if there is a method to punish such players now.
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Re: Opponent expelled me when he realized he was losing

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I did this before until the Karma system was introduced several days ago.
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Re: Opponent expelled me when he realized he was losing

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xxerox wrote:It happens allot. Those players win by purposly avoiding the player and making them run out of time. Annoying. I would kick a player in a live game, but never in a turn based one. No matter who is winning.
But some people just want to win no matter what. Even by unethical methods. I would suggest you when you play against someone like that, check your game every hour and try to make him run out of time.
Wow! Didn't realize it happens a lot. It was just my second play-by-turn email. I presumed it would be a one-off. Just a very frustrating one-off since I really brainstormed hard to turn around the game.
I did try to do it every hour once I figured what he was upto. Unfortunately, it was already pretty late by then. Didn't have much of a margin left for errors. :|
These kind of ppl really ruin it for everyone in the community. :x
demiurgsage wrote:If you know your time zone not popular on BGA you should try to join games with bigger time limit. Also if your game is affected by time limit bug (like Race for the Galaxy, Seasons, Takenoko) you should doulbe your comfort time limit.
Also I agree that a player who intentionally use time limit to run you out of time and win the game should be punished. But don't know if there is a method to punish such players now.
This was a tournament game, so not really customizable. I joined it coz it was in my time zone. This player, however, wasn't.
333-blue wrote: I did this before until the Karma system was introduced several days ago.
How does karma system stop this kind of stuff?
For me, at least in this case, the karma stuff backfired on me. My karma reduced and I couldn't even post about this anywhere except the forums. :(


Thanks for replying guys. Feeling slightly better in the knowledge that I am not alone in this experience or frustration.
Really wish the mods would think of some way to report such players and deal with them severely. Something like the wins getting reversed and accounts getting banned is the only thing that would be a deterrent. Although I guess it would be hard to prove that this was done unless its done multiple times and gets reported each time. I am presuming there are some sort of logs maintained even for finished games. No idea though....
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fat4lity
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Re: Opponent expelled me when he realized he was losing

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Does any one know how to bring this to the attention of the admins..? Just in case this issue has managed to stay under the radar...
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Re: Opponent expelled me when he realized he was losing

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Good luCk WITH THAT iVE BEEN WAITING 3 DAYS AFER 3 REPORTS AND COMPLAINING ON THE FORUM.IF BGA DONT WANT TO HELP YOU THEY WONT. I KNOW THEY WORK HARD BUTTHEY HATE TO ADMIT TO MISTAKES.REAL SIMPLE THEY SAY THIS PLAYER HAS A PERFECT KARME AFTER HE USES PROVANITY ,VULGAR DIRTY /THILTHY DESCIPTIOD ON WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO WITH A gOAT.
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Re: Opponent expelled me when he realized he was losing

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fat4lity wrote:Does any one know how to bring this to the attention of the admins..? Just in case this issue has managed to stay under the radar...
Admins read all the posts on the forum. If they didn't reply, it's their decision. Maybe there is something more important.
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Re: Opponent expelled me when he realized he was losing

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fat4lity wrote:How does karma system stop this kind of stuff?
When you give a red thumb to someone and select "Do you want to tell the whole community not to play with this player?" it counts: if this player does this often he/she will get a lot of red thumbs and when the ratio is too high his reputation will drop and can't go above a certain level unless his green thumb/red thumb ratio improves.
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Re: Opponent expelled me when he realized he was losing

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Before, I often ignore the skips of the turn-based games, but now, I would like to be unhappy when a person skipps me.
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