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Jest Phulin
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Please remove Christmas hats

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While it is "the season," and many people enjoy dressing for the festivities, please do not force people to show support for a holiday with strong religious overtones by placing hats on their pictures. Please either remove the hats, or at least make it an option for members to choose the hat or the standard ribbon.

Thank you.
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zanthian
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Re: Please remove Christmas hats

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sourisdudesert
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Re: Please remove Christmas hats

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This is just a hat... nothing religious here.

However, if you go to preference/avatar and choose to remove the yellow ribbon, it will remove the hat as it is the same logic.
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Jest Phulin
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Re: Please remove Christmas hats

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sourisdudesert wrote:This is just a hat... nothing religious here.
Fine. Will you be placing a yamaka on avatars during Chanukah, or a taqiyah during Ramadan? :) They're just hats... (insert various smileys here)

Thanks for telling me where the spot to change that is. I couldn't find it.
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Re: Please remove Christmas hats

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Jest Phulin wrote:Please either remove the hats, or at least make it an option for members to choose the hat or the standard ribbon.
You should be more tolerant.
Christmas hat has nothing in common with religion. Or you think when Jesus was born people cut down a fir tree, dressed red hats and started to celebrate?
Maybe you find in the holy book such an episode :)
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Re: Please remove Christmas hats

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The most sensible solution is to simply offer users the option to add a hat while leaving no-hat as the default. Since in the real world most people would like to be asked before having a hat put on their head, shouldn't it be the same here?
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Jest Phulin
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Re: Please remove Christmas hats

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As this is a game site, and not a religious site, we should be careful how we proceed with the discussion so it doesn't descend into a flame war.
demiurgsage wrote: Christmas hat has nothing in common with religion.
Um, CHRIST-mas, the day celebrating the birth of Christ, has nothing to do with religion? ;)

I do not mind others observing their beliefs. What I objected to was being forced to show support for those beliefs. As I have been shown a method to remove the hat image, I feel this matter is resolved.
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Re: Please remove Christmas hats

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dhnyny wrote:The most sensible solution is to simply offer users the option to add a hat while leaving no-hat as the default. Since in the real world most people would like to be asked before having a hat put on their head, shouldn't it be the same here?
Actually most people like to see these hats, they cheered up them. And this does not mean that all these people go to church.

Jest Phulin wrote:
demiurgsage wrote: Christmas hat has nothing in common with religion.
Um, CHRIST-mas, the day celebrating the birth of Christ, has nothing to do with religion? ;)
I talked about hats, I'm quite sure that red hats and fir trees have nothing in common with religion. You can pretend that you will not celebrate Christmas, but people celebrate it not because they believe in God. They use a holiday to meet relatives and friends and spend time together. Even in Soviet Union where religion was strictly forbidden people dressed red hats and celebrated New Year day.
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Jest Phulin
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Re: Please remove Christmas hats

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demiurgsage wrote: Actually most people like to see these hats,
But not all.

demiurgsage wrote: I talked about hats, I'm quite sure that red hats and fir trees have nothing in common with religion.
Red hats and fir trees may not originally have had anything to do with religion. However, today they are closely associated with Christmas. Fir trees are not decorated during the rest of the year, and red stocking caps with white trim are not worn in late January, even though it is just as cold. Chocolate rabbits have nothing to due with resurrection, but it would be difficult to convince many people where I live (United States of America) that they have nothing to do with Easter.
demiurgsage wrote: You can pretend that you will not celebrate Christmas,
Just like you can pretend not to celebrate Ramadan, Ganesh Chaturthi, Yom Kippur, Beltane, or any number of days from other religions.
demiurgsage wrote:Even in Soviet Union where religion was strictly forbidden people dressed red hats and celebrated New Year day.
So you are saying that forcing me to wear a red hat brings back memories of the Soviet Union under Lenin, and this is a good thing?


Here is the issue:
An action has been forced on me and others that has been deemed to be offensive.
I am not requiring that others stop that action themselves, I was requesting that I not have to do that action.
As far as I am concerned, BGA resolved the issue when sourisdudesert showed how to remove it.
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Re: Please remove Christmas hats

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Jest Phulin wrote: Red hats and fir trees may not originally have had anything to do with religion. However, today they are closely associated with Christmas. Fir trees are not decorated during the rest of the year, and red stocking caps with white trim are not worn in late January, even though it is just as cold.
You finally understand it. Christmas became a part of the year for the most of people, not a religion holiday.
I am not requiring that others stop that action themselves, I was requesting that I not have to do that action.
You did it when you asked to remove the hats.
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