ELO rank now visible from everyone!

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Biking Gamer
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Hurrah! The scores make a lot more sense now, and this will make finding the right level on more popular games like PR much easier.
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andwilk9176
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I believe this shift in ELO ranges and titles has caused an issue with tournaments that had restrictions in place before this change.

For example, the Takenoko Good Panda tournament is normally restricted to Good players and above. It's current restriction is now average through strong players. Will this shift be addressed?
fuonlynu
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listen for over 2 years now this site and admin.continue tO adjust the ELO AND KARMA.YES HARD WORK BUT AGAIN IT will NEVER///NEVER WORK.UNREALISTIC GOAL/PIPE DREAM I CALL IT.PLEASE SPEND TIME BY IMPROVING ELO TO A WIN/LOSS AND PERCENTAGE SYSTEM.PLEASE TAKE OUT oPINIONS FROM KARMA RATING.NO IM NOT BEATING MY HEAD IN THE WALL I SEE would CHAnGES BUT BGA JUST HASNT FIGURE IT OUT.sorry bga I realize what your looking for but with this many persons playing on this site what ur trying to accomplish wont work.Work with us not against us
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asd123321
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What was old K factor?

Orange wreath for Strong does not show in area waiting for players to join
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Rajam
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Elo has its inherent flaws, but getting rid of it and putting percentages is WAY worse. Please never do that. It would encourage players to play against weak players to inflate their victory %. At least, Elo gives a higher reward for beating better players; a % based score wouldn't discriminate. Even with all the flaws the Elo systems have, they're pretty decent and widely accepted in many competitions.

That said, an inherent flaw of Elo systems is when absolute and relative are mixed. Elo is a relative system; the score per se should mean nothing, the only thing that matters is how your score compares against others'. The problem is that there will always be an score that actually means something: the new-player's base score... and the problem is when some people reach scores below that. Is it possible to be worse than a complete beginner? Honestly it shouldn't, and I agree with a minimum Elo which match a new-player's base score (in this case, 0).

Now, I DON'T agree with players not being able to lose Elo between an arbitrary range (1-100 currently). If players just keep losing, they should get stuck at 0 Elo. If they win once, raise their score a little, and then keep losing again a lot, they should just return to 0 if the Elo calculations dictate it, because it means that those players are still pretty weak and still at a beginner level. A new floor (of 100) is kinda redundant with the base minimum of 0. Please just keep one floor: 0. Do you want to make distinctions between complete beginners and players that have played some games? Then putting visible the n° of victories and n° of games played should help in that regard; no need to make arbitrary floors and extra rules on the Elo system.
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jeffbizloc
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Thanks for the work it sounds like a lot of good thought was put into this.

The coloring scheme doesn't seem like purple (or the higher ranks/colors) are "better" but that is subjective
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Badabim
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Personally I don't care that much about the rankings nor elo for that matter. I'm just a bit disappointed to changes made to ui. Could it be possible for user to choose whether to use old or new ui?
fuonlynu
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playing against egual elo does not mean ur playing with players your skill either.i can have a elo of less than 1oo or 5oo above.i choose to play with anyone.dont get wrapped up in this elo.the good players win period of elo ranking .I'm living proof I'm top 3 in hearts wins.period elo doesn't work again showme the proof.Mr.60/30
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Mugen
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Post by Mugen »

Nice improvment guys! This ranking system cooler.

PS
Still waiting when you change this wooden laminate background...
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Gandon
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I like most of the changes, but as a primarily turn based player, the lower K values are discouraging. I don't know how you would fix that though, as increasing the K value for turn based games doesn't make sense when you can play a turn based game live anyway. It's just going to take longer to see changes in my ELO ratings now. Sigh.
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