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BorderReiver
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Hive Black And White - Random Isn't Good Enough

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Hey,

Surely there needs to be an algorithm in place to ensure that you play Black or White roughly equally?

My last 20 games have been as follows;

https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29253628 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29250770 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29275938 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29238786 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29156867 White
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29243683 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29147697 White
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29108493 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=28780314 White
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29163079 White
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29179455 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29157014 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29098710 White
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29179618 White
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29153521 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29131138 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29100898 White
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29133390 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29150194 Black
https://en.boardgamearena.com/#!gamerev ... e=29106195 Black

That's 65% of my last 20 games I've started as black. Now I'm evidently a pretty ropey player with much to learn, however in a game like Hive where the first player does carry a natural advantage I think this ratio makes it very difficult to get a decent experience of playing from both positions. I suppose if I play enough games those figures will even out* however this seems to be very very off-putting for new players here.

Surely it wouldn't be impossible for the lobby system to compare ratios of white & black starts for all players and award white to whomever has the lowest of the two? This doesn't seem impossible?

Just a thought! And I have to say I'm loving most of my experience here absolutely!

* Astoundingly I'm currently active in the following games. Still over 60% Black.

https://en.2.boardgamearena.com/hive?table=29278254 White
https://en.2.boardgamearena.com/hive?table=29278254 Black
https://en.2.boardgamearena.com/hive?table=29249672 Black
https://en.2.boardgamearena.com/hive?table=29241656 Black
https://en.2.boardgamearena.com/hive?table=29209835 White
https://en.4.boardgamearena.com/hive?table=29177418 White
https://en.2.boardgamearena.com/hive?table=29100437 Black
https://en.4.boardgamearena.com/hive?table=29051241 Black
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Sytske
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Re: Hive Black And White - Random Isn't Good Enough

Post by Sytske »

If you throw in some maths (cumulative binomial probability) you'll find that there's a 25% chance of numbers similar to yours (or worse) happening to any given player after 20 games. So it's not unlikely.
This will eventually even out
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