New trophy design

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New trophy design

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Dear all,

We just modified the design of the BGA trophies.

This is only the first visible step from a bigger change on trophies and prestige system.

The benefits of this new design is:
  • We had to make a clear visual distinction between the trophy images (hexagons), avatar images (circles) and the game images (squares).
  • We need to display bigger trophy images on some page, and way bigger trophy images in some new sections in the future. So we had to redesign all the trophies anyway.
  • More trophies will be added in the future. With this new design principles, this is way more easy to create new trophy for us.
  • The new trophies can sometimes be displayed as an "hex grid", which is very cool and saves some space :)
Some more changes are to come in the near future concerning the metagame.
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Re: New trophy design

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Not liking these at all to be honest :?

The former were totally fine, in design and shape. Squared seems a lot more natural and intuitive to my eye, but these new ones look kind of stale and outdated...
They are also really lacking clarity in my view. For example before I could just apply that yellow background trophy was maximum in each category, but now suddenly 'master' has a purple background which leads to slight confusion.

Again, with such more impactful changes my plea from that other thread remains sensible to me, to include the community in the decision making. Or at least introduce some veto function afterwards, if their is substantial negative feedback.
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Re: New trophy design

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souly4 wrote: 01 July 2019, 17:11 Not liking these at all to be honest :?

The former were totally fine, in design and shape. Squared seems a lot more natural and intuitive to my eye, but these new ones look kind of stale and outdated...
They are also really lacking clarity in my view. For example before I could just apply that yellow background trophy was maximum in each category, but now suddenly 'master' has a purple background which leads to slight confusion.

Again, with such more impactful changes my plea from that other thread remains sensible to me, to include the community in the decision making. Or at least introduce some veto function afterwards, if their is substantial negative feedback.
totally agree with this, +1
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Re: New trophy design

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Thanks for your feedback.

Just a comment: master trophy HAVE TO be purple, because purple is already associated to purple within the ELO system. It was confusing to have a different color scheme for ELO bar and associated trophies, so no it has been fixed.

For the other trophies, gold remains the color for the best trophy, and the color evolution is really close to the previous one (gray / blue / green / orange / red / gold).

Also, the previous shape was exactly identical to the game icon shape, so it was not possible to distinguish between a game icon and a trophy. So it has to be changed.
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Re: New trophy design

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Alright, you stated reasons why you would change the master background color and the shape, but...both still seem arbitrary to me.

1st, background color:
If you argue with consistency (with elo display), there is no objective validation why it should be superior to consistency with remaining trophies. And the second is actually more logical, as the trophies are arranged next to each other, so are perceived as some entity. In addition, why would only master (purple) match the elo background, while basically all the others would not? (elo changes more to the blue with lower ranks, trophies have their own colors altogether)
Okay, I just checked this, that last part seems to be wrong

2nd, shape:
What's so worrisome when the shape of trophy is the same as a game icon? Where would one be inclined to mix these two up? Human perception works in schemes, and the current scheme was: you see the game/trophy icon and it's easy to identify by looks and position, both clearly distinguishable (actually I know no other subpage here than one's trophy profile where both show up together, and you would assume even someone who is new to BGA and selects this page has internalized it after the second time). That weird angular shape ruins the consistency in schemes completely, for my taste. Having few elements while maintaining the desired functions is almost always a sign of elegance, not reverse. Imagine if there were 10 or more colors/shapes on a t-shirt, most would perceive it as ugly, odd. You could maybe be a little reserved and not overshoot the mark with a huge overhaul, but try minor steps. That way the threat that it will displease many users is way lower. And the crucial point is really...the old badges have been around for many years, and I've not encountered one complaint in all this time. Now you already have two from 10 views of this thread, and no positive comment.
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Re: New trophy design

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Oh I feel relief since I am creating tournaments often and choosing trophy image was a challenge thinking it looking cool in profile. Now relax, since the effort anymore not visible.
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I'd post a pic - screenshot - but don't know how to post it here from mobile gallery.
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Re: New trophy design

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Honestly one of my favorite features was seeing the unique images for tournament wins..... Now these are gone..... :(

I vote against this. I think you will see some backlash from more hardcore tournament players.
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Re: New trophy design

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charace wrote: 01 July 2019, 18:52 Now these are gone.....
There are not gone: they are integrated with a "tournament" trophy. There are smaller than before.

This was a design issue with the previous trophy art: we cannot allow any tournament creator to make trophies that looks like any other trophy. Before that, you were able to copy the design of an existing trophy, create a tournament with this image, and then pretend that you won this trophy.

Note that when the trophy is displayed full size (ex: when you place your mouse cursor on it), the tournament icon is exactly at the same size than before. The good news is that in the near future the "big size trophy" will be the one that will be displayed the most frequently, so you'll get back your favorite feature :)
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Re: New trophy design

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I like the hex shape!

Maybe for the number of games played you can - in addition to different color - show the die on the icon with higher number on top for more games played (i think there are less then 6 steps anyway). Right now they all show a 4.
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