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turtler7
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Re: (NEW) Arena mode upgrade

Post by turtler7 »

I just watched the timer tick down on a game I wanted to play. It counted out seconds till it is available 9 8 7... 1. 0. Then play now opened up. And either ONE singular game instantly matched and launched and the button went away. Or it is glitched not to give a 1 minute joining period and instead shows a 1 minute countdown over top of the 1 minute joining period without a play now button available during that time.

Please fix.

EDIT: Saw this in Jaipur. I now see a different game ticking down and does have a play now button available under it while the timer is going. Will continue to observe and see if it was a one time error, my looking wrong and failing miserably, etc.

EDIT 2: Got into a realtime game using the playnow that did show up during the 1 minute window countdown. Then saw this: It stayed that way for more than a minute or so and I opened another tab to see if I could view lobby for other games thinking I might get player count dropped or something. Either I bugged it right at the exact perfect time and made my new tab priority for BGA or my real time game had already started without the browser bringing me into it. It threw me right into my game. Then it played fine. Just some serious eh getting in. Next time I will use a stopwatch on that white screen and if it gets to 2 minutes or something where I think I am in danger of timing out had a match started I will open a tab again and check my current time countdown. Otherwise I will not open a tab and see if it redirects correctly without my tampering.
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EDIT 3: This is what happened to this game not showing the join at all. And it didnt even flash the button at me as the timer ended this time. Image
EDIT 3B: this was probably because they just took the realtime system down briefly to do a hot fix. Probably can ignore this one as not a real issue.
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AKuras
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Re: (NEW) Arena mode upgrade

Post by AKuras »

Whyle this is good for long games that re not played much, its devastating for short popular games. for egz cant stop. i can get 2-3 games in 10 minutes window. now 1 game max. if i have spare few minutes i have to wait for it to start and then i might be the odd man out and not even get a game. instead of 2-4 games i did when i had a free time i will get ~1 game. thats harsh.
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sourisdudesert
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Re: (NEW) Arena mode upgrade

Post by sourisdudesert »

UPDATE (just now)
  • We doubled the time available to join a session: 2 minutes instead of 1.
  • When it is specified "15:34" under a game, it now means that the game STARTS at this time. Before that, we were opening the registration at this time.
  • We fixed some bugs, and also add additional security to make sure you don't have to refresh to find your Arena game in some situations.
Note: you gave us a lot of negative feedback on this upgrade, like you did when we released the Arena. It means that you need time to get used to a feature, and we need time to evaluate the impact of this feature. If finally we found that it was a bad idea, this is 100% sure that we will rollback to the previous situation. However, we need time to fix the bugs, and you need time to understand how it works, so we won't respond to those who ask for an immediate rollback.
Tatasmurf
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Re: (NEW) Arena mode upgrade

Post by Tatasmurf »

Yesterday, old system managed to get 6 games of hive. Today new system tried once didn't get paired or something and rest of the time I missed the tiny window of opportunity however while looking over games in progress and recently finished there didn't seem to be any live hive arenas so for me this is a horrible change.
Polegge
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Re: (NEW) Arena mode upgrade

Post by Polegge »

How many players will be rewarded at the end of the season?
The first 3 of the ranking of the season for each game?
Or the first 10? Or the first 20?
(sorry if this has already been asked)
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pipemazon
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Re: (NEW) Arena mode upgrade

Post by pipemazon »

These timeslots in intervals of 10 minutes seem to be a bit unlucky atleast for Carcassonne. Never experienced too long waiting times there anyway. Now I h a v e to wait up to 10 minutes. And just now it appeared, that there seemed to be 7 players waiting and I finally got no game. So again wait for 10 minutes...
I am sure you have good reasons for that, but as I said, I guess in Carcassonne we were enough anyway...?
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gloubi69
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Re: (NEW) Arena mode upgrade

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J'avais ouvert une partie simple en temps réel de buttons, personne n'arrivait, j'ai postulé pour une partie en arena temps réel de 6 nimmt
Quelqu'un est arrivé dans ma partie simple de buttons, je l'ai jouée, et je me suis aperçu en la terminant que j'étais aussi dans la partie arena 6 nimmt.
(heureusement juste avant d'être out of time)
Pas normal d'être dans 2 parties real time en même temps
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rcadian
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Re: (NEW) Arena mode upgrade

Post by rcadian »

I DO NOT like the new designated start times. Do like Arena mode as it was. YMMV.

Edit 1 - I couldn't gte into the first availble Arena game at the designated time as there were too many people - but got the right-of-way into the next one. But not enough people were there at the next start time! So no game started at all and the game just turned over to the next start time, 30 minutes later. So I went off to play a regular ("Simple") Game. That took so long I missed the next Arena start time!

I was happier just waiting in Arena lobby and when enough people showed up the game started.

EDIT 2 - now not enough people for game - only 3/5 - but rather than just waiting for two people and starting when they get here, we all have to try again in 15 minutes...or risk not getting a game at all in Arena mode.

Better just letting people control the level of their opponents and start when a game when want.
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Daavids
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Re: (NEW) Arena mode upgrade

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I joined 2 turn-based games, and for 3 hours they both shows "Your game will start at 1:00". is it 1:00 a.m?
What that means?

Before Update, King's Guild started in 2 seconds, while it predicted few minutes. It is good for waiting enough players, because don't want to play against the same players (all 3 times one of the opponents was the same) or from higher leagues.

Suggestions:
-Show how much players waiting, who joined game

-matches will start based on full tables created, not by time of the day.
For popular games: higher number of tables.
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shinycat24
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Re: (NEW) Arena mode upgrade

Post by shinycat24 »

sourisdudesert wrote: 06 February 2020, 13:25
f00fak wrote: 06 February 2020, 13:20 I think this is a really terrible idea - human beings HATE waiting. The existing system was working fine. It amazes me how this site can break things by trying to fix things that aren't broken.
When we published the previous system, we got more than 300 feedbacks here explaining that it was a terrible idea:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13890

Now that we try to fix things we are being told that the previous system was working fine and that this one is not.

- sigh -
I think this is because people who enjoyed it weren't complaining.. they were just playing. I bet for your "300" people that complained, hundreds or even thousands were very happy with the system as it was. The new system is terrible in my opinion. Before, I could queue for multiple games and play what came up first with a match. Why could you not incorporate the better rank matching into this same system?
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