[BETA] XP and Achievements: Gotta catch'em all !

[Djuseppe]

The XP icons reminds me of Who wants to be a Millionaire?
It's funny but it seems a bit off compared to the general graphic style of the web site

[SilverRobot]

LOVE LOVE LOVE the Arena system, can't wait to see where this feature goes! There's just one thing I'd like to see changed... I think it's a bit TOO easy to rank up the Arena. I'd like to see either more leagues added, or a beefier requirement for ranking up the leagues. I mean no offense, but I have seen some rather poor players in the upper leagues... It would also feel like more of an achievement to rank up if this were the case.

[sprockitz]

LOVE LOVE LOVE the Arena system, can't wait to see where this feature goes! There's just one thing I'd like to see changed... I think it's a bit TOO easy to rank up the Arena. I'd like to see either more leagues added, or a beefier requirement for ranking up the leagues. I mean no offense, but I have seen some rather poor players in the upper leagues... It would also feel like more of an achievement to rank up if this were the case.

This is actually only a problem for the quick games. For short games the 10 point system fails because it is easy to play tons of games and eventually get lucky enough to win 3 in a row to move up. In longer more skill based games the 10 point system is adequate. Would be a good idea to increase points per level for the quicker more luck based games to 20 instead of the current 10.

[dudi2]

Thanks for the nice update.

Regarding the XP redesign - so far so good, I am just not sure I agree with today's change that switched all tournament trophies to same greenish color (probably was meant to reduce clatter?) and changed the gained points to 300/150/75 for 1st-3rd place. I can live with new color scheme (though it was nice to look back at diversity of previous throphies - if they all look the same from now on, except by name, incentive to gain new ones will be much smaller), but giving same XP for all tournaments seems wrong to me - the new system was supposed to reduce the problematic practice of creating smallish (some would say - "fake") tourneys just for sake of farming XP - but if this system remains, it will actually incentivize it!
Also from visual standpoint it was nice to look back in history and see a 5000+ points worth trophy and nostalgically reminiscence - yeah, that was one grand tourney with many high-ELO players that I managed to win! - but now they all will be the same, stock picture of green cup with some name on it and the standard 300XP points. It may be just my subjective feeling, but for this one aspect i liked the old system better!

See section "What about tournament trophies?" on the FAQ posting in Discussion subforum:

We are aware that some players was using the previous system to cheat the "Prestige" system by creating very small tournaments to gain a lot of points.

In some months, we are going to review and update the way XP points are computed for tournaments (with many other improvements for tournaments).

When this update will be made, all XP points linked to tournaments will be re-computed with the new rules.

In the meantime, the new rules are:
_ A tournament can bring a maximum of 300 XP.
_ A tournament with less than 10 players registered worth 0 XP.
_ The number of XP points bring by tournament has been slightly decreased.

Again: this is a temporary measure to make sure no one is using tournament to cheat the system. This will be updated again later.

I like that there is a temporary solution in the meantime, before there WILL BE a improved solution as soon as the administrators have time to implement the optimised solution.

A agree that a tournament should have a minimum number of participants and at most the better half of participants should get XP, meaning a miniumum number of participants of 6 for round robin and of 8 for swiss and knockout tournaments.

Keep up the good work!

[SilverRobot]

LOVE LOVE LOVE the Arena system, can't wait to see where this feature goes! There's just one thing I'd like to see changed... I think it's a bit TOO easy to rank up the Arena. I'd like to see either more leagues added, or a beefier requirement for ranking up the leagues. I mean no offense, but I have seen some rather poor players in the upper leagues... It would also feel like more of an achievement to rank up if this were the case.

This is actually only a problem for the quick games. For short games the 10 point system fails because it is easy to play tons of games and eventually get lucky enough to win 3 in a row to move up. In longer more skill based games the 10 point system is adequate. Would be a good idea to increase points per level for the quicker more luck based games to 20 instead of the current 10.

I agree, this could would be a good change. Also reducing the bonus for beating someone from an upper league would help.

[dschingis27]

Also reducing the bonus for beating someone from an upper league would help.

You can already vote for this. https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=15701

I also agree that having 20 points per league for shorter, luck-based games would be way better.
But this is the wrong thread for this. Let's keep it about the lovely achievements and XP and discuss about Arena elswhere.

[elfreedel]

Genial!

[Sunmaster14]

See section "What about tournament trophies?" on the FAQ posting in Discussion subforum:

We are aware that some players was using the previous system to cheat the "Prestige" system by creating very small tournaments to gain a lot of points.

In some months, we are going to review and update the way XP points are computed for tournaments (with many other improvements for tournaments).

When this update will be made, all XP points linked to tournaments will be re-computed with the new rules.

In the meantime, the new rules are:
_ A tournament can bring a maximum of 300 XP.
_ A tournament with less than 10 players registered worth 0 XP.
_ The number of XP points bring by tournament has been slightly decreased.

Again: this is a temporary measure to make sure no one is using tournament to cheat the system. This will be updated again later.

I like that there is a temporary solution in the meantime, before there WILL BE a improved solution as soon as the administrators have time to implement the optimised solution.

A agree that a tournament should have a minimum number of participants and at most the better half of participants should get XP, meaning a miniumum number of participants of 6 for round robin and of 8 for swiss and knockout tournaments.

Keep up the good work!

Thanks, my bad, somehow missed that part! I am absolutely for having a temporary solution if it leads to improved scoring in the long run!

[Greorryr]

Note that "XP" means "eXperience Points", so it's completely redundant to say "XP Points".

[...] if I hear someone say "PIN Number" one more time, I'm gonna punch some drywall.

Just breathe in, turn your watch and look at the LCD Display for fiv- - oh well, I guess it's OLED display nowadays - crisis averted
SCNR

Or, if it puts your mind at ease, assume "XP Points" stands for "eXPerience Points"

hey, that works nicely, too

gl&hf all

[AngryHamster]

I really appreciate effort dev team is putting into this. Excellent job.

I see a little problem with people being pushed from tournaments to Arena in regards to later rewards (tournament points vs XP).
For now Arena matchmaking creates a little problem here.
When somebody tries to queue they will be paired with other people queueing even if their elo difference is very big. This may result in Arena champions playing more matches / being luckier with pairing instead of besting good players. I had a number of 3+p matches in composition of Strong vs Good vs Average. Usually it is not that difficult to predict such match outcome.

I am definitely not criticizing, just adding a feedback so everything will become even better!

Cheers