Licence for Concept (Repos Production)

[cpasbanal]

Hello all,

I am a new developper on BGA Studio and looking for a game to develop (not too hard to start).
I was considering developing Concept (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept_(board_game)) from Repos Production (https://rprod.com/index.php?page=catalogue) who already gave the licence of 7 wonders.

Did you already ask for this licence?
Are there any other developper interested to join me for developing the game?

Thanks for all the work you made to make all this magic happen

Best,
Jérémie (cpasbanal)

[Victoria_La]

You can ask for a license using the template provided on licensing page, but this game won't be easy.
It would require some sort of text processing rules which is not normally used in board games and placement of cubes
on symbols is actually non-standard - you can place them in very specific positions and use different quantities of cubes to indicate meaning,
such as you place a cube between male and female symbols to indicate gender neutral. Anyways I suggest to start with something else,
check available licenses.

[0BuRner]

You can ask for a license using the template provided on licensing page, but this game won't be easy.
It would require some sort of text processing rules which is not normally used in board games and placement of cubes
on symbols is actually non-standard - you can place them in very specific positions and use different quantities of cubes to indicate meaning,
such as you place a cube between male and female symbols to indicate gender neutral. Anyways I suggest to start with something else,
check available licenses.

What do you mean by "text processing" in this context ? Do you mean text input ? I think with a simple HTML form <input> tag and Ajax request as already used in the framework, it's fairly easy...

Personaly I don't think it's THAT difficult... A list of words randomly picked, one board, one active player who select cubes and click on the board to set them. When done, other players try to guess the word. When word is guess, reset cubes and play new turn.

[Victoria_La]

Who is judging on is word entered correctly? What is correct by misspelled? Or case different? Or plural?
Also all cards have to typed in text not just scanned, so its huge work, unless you have database of text all text handy already.
Anyways not the best choice for first game.

[0BuRner]

Who is judging on is word entered correctly? What is correct by misspelled? Or case different? Or plural?

You can easily use Levenshtein distance (or any other method) to set an acceptable difference between the expected word and ther entered one. It's only a decision the game creator has to take (hardcoded) or let the user chose via game variant. And for case sensitivity, simply force lower/upper case comparison as in any other "word" game.

Also all cards have to typed in text not just scanned, so its huge work, unless you have database of text all text handy already.

It doesn't make the game hard to create in BGA, it makes it longer to implement.

@cpasbanal if you go with this game and need some help, I'm your man (fr en plus si besoin )

[Victoria_La]

I just said "it won't be easy", I did not say its impossible. Won't be my first choice of a first game to implement.

[apollo1001]

Whilst I also wouldn't choose that particular game, if you really want to do it then email studio@boardgamearena.com and ask if they will request the licence for you.

EDIT: or use the template mentioned above and ask them directly.

[Tisaac]

Hi guys, I've already developed an online version of concept few days ago when I couldn't find any : http://timot.fr/concept/
I asked Repos Production about copyrights and they told me that du the particular context of covid, I could use this unofficial online version but I have to put it down as soon as the confinement is over (a couple of weeks left here in France). I also asked them if they had any plans to make an official online version with Asmodee Digitals but they answered me that it was not currently investigated, although it wasn't ruled out for later. (you can ask questions on facebook, they usually answer within the same day).

For my version, I choosed to not store anything on the server but rather to store data in the URL. This had a few advantages : don't need server storage, don't have to make a separate access for the "creator" of the game and for the other players (in fact anyone can modifiy an existing "grid" and share the new url to friends). But of course that also means players have to use another channel to "communicate" (either by emails or using zoom/discord/...).
It won't be suitable for bga but you might find useful to reuse some of the stuff I made. For instance, I broke the board into individual symbols in order to have a more responsive layout (even though the "classical" view has still too much scroll on smartphones - use the "hints only" view instead) and to have different "views". Here is an example : http://timot.fr/concept/#/ݡ㇒螌礬包犺䪰麰 (don't worry about weird stuff in the URL, it's for a more compact URL using unicode (base 65356 instead of base 64)).
If you have any questions about it or need ressources, feel free to ask !

[cpasbanal]

Thanks for all your answers.

Actually, i already tried a Proof of Concept too (https://concept-35ade.web.app/#/mainboard), i am a really lame designer though and changed the layout of the board a little bit to make it more responsive.

At first, i considered checking words using the chat, the player who is setting up the guess board can tell if it's ok or not (same in real life). Yet, i can implement some text checking.

I understand this may not be a good choice for a first game, i'll think about it.

And I didn't find any other game where the licence is already ok for which i know the rules enough

[apollo1001]

And I didn't find any other game where the licence is already ok for which i know the rules enough

That's half the fun - you learn a new game as you do it!