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Gunslinger99
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luclemou is a horrible person

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I'm sick of personnal harassment so I'm going to post here.

Almost everytime I play with the player "luclemou", and I end up beating him, he has to chat something to harass someone.
Last example in this game https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=77445631

I made a screenshot of the dialogue, but here is it (translated), after the game:
luclemou: Gunslinger, what luck!
me: if you say so
luclemou: Unbelievable to play that bad and still win
me: bad ?
luclemou: oh yes

(i'm playing bad but I win 63-50-48, anyway...)

Edit here: 1h later, I was watching another game for 7Wonders (i'm not even playing it)
https://boardgamearena.com/7/sevenwonde ... e=77473570
At the end, luclemou starts chatting and said to the player who lost
"You're last again!"
I have the screenshot as proof. Both that player and myself happen to be belgian players. I don't know if there is some kind of racism involved.

I'm sick of this behavior being unpunished. There is not an insult in the dialogue so it's not "reportable". But for me this is much worse. It's gratuitous harassment where this player spontaneously engages the conversion to hurt other people (and it's far from the first time).
Now, I know, there's the red thumb thing. But red thumb handles things silently, and I do think this kind of behavior should be heavily punished, and made public. If BGA really pretends to be a friendly place, those things should be handled seriously. This person has deep mental issues and should not be able to play on BGA
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biggetje
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Re: luclemou is a horrible person

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A lot of people struggle with ego issues. Most of those are good players getting frustrated with "bad" players making random/suboptimal moves that cost them their game. I'll admit I've been in that spot myself occasionally.

What sets luc apart is the fact that he'll berate people who are ranked much higher and have a proven track record of being much better players. The guy is still terrible at 7 wonders after almost 7000 played games so I can kind of understand the frustration. Imagine playing the same game over & over & over for 2 years, only to realize you can't even reach the top 100. It must be very painful.
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Re: luclemou is a horrible person

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I had issue with this guy several years ago. In the end I gave him a red thumb. If you win he complains you got lucky. If you lose, he brags you're a loser. It's amazing nothing changed in 2 years. This simply prooves this person should just be permanently banned and is incapable of improving his behavior.
What I also think is a problem in BGA is the following: I've been banned an entire month for simply saying the word "stupid" in the chat. I meant that a given decision was stupid, not a player, but anyway. Just the word "stupid". I got reported and was banned an entire month. Ok, so be it. And then you see this kind of harassment from a player - which just reveals how ugly his personnality is, far worse than just a bad word that you let go one time - and nothing is done about it simply because there was no "insulting" word. This makes no sense...
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Re: luclemou is a horrible person

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Gunslinger99 wrote: 21 April 2020, 15:16 I'm sick of personnal harassment so I'm going to post here.

Almost everytime I play with the player "luclemou", and I end up beating him, he has to chat something to harass someone.
Last example in this game https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=77445631
You've had a total of 2 games with luclemou. https://boardgamearena.com/gamestats?pl ... d=84855064
Gunslinger99 wrote: 21 April 2020, 15:16 I made a screenshot of the dialogue, but here is it (translated), after the game:
luclemou: Gunslinger, what luck!
me: if you say so
luclemou: Unbelievable to play that bad and still win
me: bad ?
luclemou: oh yes

Edit here: 1h later, I was watching another game for 7Wonders (i'm not even playing it)
https://boardgamearena.com/7/sevenwonde ... e=77473570
At the end, luclemou starts chatting and said to the player who lost
"You're last again!"
This should be in your report.
Gunslinger99 wrote: 21 April 2020, 15:16 I'm sick of this behavior being unpunished. There is not an insult in the dialogue so it's not "reportable". But for me this is much worse. It's gratuitous harassment where this player spontaneously engages the conversion to hurt other people (and it's far from the first time).
Now, I know, there's the red thumb thing. But red thumb handles things silently, and I do think this kind of behavior should be heavily punished, and made public. If BGA really pretends to be a friendly place, those things should be handled seriously. This person has deep mental issues and should not be able to play on BGA
Where does it say that it isn't reportable? Do you believe it is appropriate of you to say that he has "deep mental issues" on this forum?
biggetje wrote: 21 April 2020, 16:39 A lot of people struggle with ego issues. Most of those are good players getting frustrated with "bad" players making random/suboptimal moves that cost them their game. I'll admit I've been in that spot myself occasionally.

What sets luc apart is the fact that he'll berate people who are ranked much higher and have a proven track record of being much better players. The guy is still terrible at 7 wonders after almost 7000 played games so I can kind of understand the frustration. Imagine playing the same game over & over & over for 2 years, only to realize you can't even reach the top 100. It must be very painful.
You are the very proverbial pot calling the kettle black. Your record is far worse.
Pistolero wrote: 21 April 2020, 17:34 I had issue with this guy several years ago. In the end I gave him a red thumb. If you win he complains you got lucky. If you lose, he brags you're a loser. It's amazing nothing changed in 2 years. This simply prooves this person should just be permanently banned and is incapable of improving his behavior.
What I also think is a problem in BGA is the following: I've been banned an entire month for simply saying the word "stupid" in the chat. I meant that a given decision was stupid, not a player, but anyway. Just the word "stupid". I got reported and was banned an entire month. Ok, so be it. And then you see this kind of harassment from a player - which just reveals how ugly his personnality is, far worse than just a bad word that you let go one time - and nothing is done about it simply because there was no "insulting" word. This makes no sense...
Your record is extensive, which is why you are receiving progressively harsher penalties.
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Re: luclemou is a horrible person

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I've played with other accounts in the past. True, it's only two games with this account but it's already in the second game that he starts doing his annoying harrasment stuff.
I really think he has mental issue, but of course it's only my opinion. Again, by the past, I've tried to report this kind of behavior, and he was judged "unguilty" because of no real insulting words in the conversation. But I assure you, you can harass with non-insulting words. Thousands of people are doing it every day around the world :)
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Gunslinger99 wrote: 21 April 2020, 19:11 I've played with other accounts in the past. True, it's only two games with this account but it's already in the second game that he starts doing his annoying harrasment stuff.
I really think he has mental issue, but of course it's only my opinion. Again, by the past, I've tried to report this kind of behavior, and he was judged "unguilty" because of no real insulting words in the conversation. But I assure you, you can harass with non-insulting words. Thousands of people are doing it every day around the world :)
So you have played with luclemou on other accounts, and you reported luclemou in the past too. Which resulted in 'not guilty' verdicts?

Also, would you say that this thread could be considered to be harassment?
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Re: luclemou is a horrible person

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Imagine having a grand total of three 7 wonders games played on your 4 years old account, yet deciding to come in a 7 wonders thread to white knight a guy you probably don't even know just for the sake of engaging in a discussion.

In before "but I have played you on 10 other accounts in the past" :roll:
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biggetje wrote: 21 April 2020, 20:00 Imagine having a grand total of three 7 wonders games played on your 4 years old account, yet deciding to come in a 7 wonders thread to white knight a guy you probably don't even know just for the sake of engaging in a discussion.

In before "but I have played you on 10 other accounts in the past" :roll:
I find it strange how you think the number of played 7 Wonders games is relevant or why you even claim this to be a 7 Wonders thread.

I'm merely calling you out on your hypocrisy, biggetje.
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Certainly the fact the player in question is only playing 7 wonders and the people complaining about him so far are veteran 7 wonders players themselves would not count towards this being a 7 wonders related topic.

We both know why you're really here ;).
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biggetje wrote: 21 April 2020, 20:58 Certainly the fact the player in question is only playing 7 wonders and the people complaining about him so far are veteran 7 wonders players themselves would not count towards this being a 7 wonders related topic.

We both know why you're really here ;).
Well I don't, and this thread is toxic from the start. Red thumbs are appropriate to this situation: if you don't want to play again with a player for whatever reason (including your opinion of their personality), use red thumbs.

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