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Re: FAQ: new achievements & XP system

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liefde_is wrote: 21 April 2020, 18:42 I'm also waiting for those played that many type of games achievement! I achieved at least that one with 3! but not seen it yet :)
I've played about 110, including 4 today and haven't seen any award yet. Guessing some bugs still to work out.
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Re: FAQ: new achievements & XP system

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In the same way there is a lot of games where the award list is not complete. For example i got "firt victory" and "20 victories" but not 3 and 10 ones. Or won the "300 elo" but not the 100 and 200.

I dont know If it is for everyone exactly the same hf on the same games, or a random upset, but every day i can note that some of these forgotten hf are added.

So, do you need a list of couples game/hf ?
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Re: FAQ: new achievements & XP system

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I would like to point out one current paradox.
I got a Top 3 ELO achievement for 5000XP with date 9.4.2020. Less than two weeks later, I lost a game and earn the Top 5 ELO achievement for 6000XP :lol:
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Re: FAQ: new achievements & XP system

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Grey Lord wrote: 22 April 2020, 10:43 I got a Top 3 ELO achievement for 5000XP with date 9.4.2020. Less than two weeks later, I lost a game and earn the Top 5 ELO achievement for 6000XP
Just some word to explain::
_ you got a Top 3 ELO achievement for a game with less than 5.000 ranked players, which worth 5000 XP.
_ then, the number of ranked player goes over 5.000 ranked players.
_ you got the Top 5 ELO achievement, which worth 6000 XP.
_ if you manage to get again the Top 3 for the same game, your existing achievement XP will be increased to 10.000 XP.
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Re: FAQ: new achievements & XP system

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sourisdudesert wrote: 22 April 2020, 10:49
Grey Lord wrote: 22 April 2020, 10:43 I got a Top 3 ELO achievement for 5000XP with date 9.4.2020. Less than two weeks later, I lost a game and earn the Top 5 ELO achievement for 6000XP
Just some word to explain::
_ you got a Top 3 ELO achievement for a game with less than 5.000 ranked players, which worth 5000 XP.
_ then, the number of ranked player goes over 5.000 ranked players.
_ you got the Top 5 ELO achievement, which worth 6000 XP.
_ if you manage to get again the Top 3 for the same game, your existing achievement XP will be increased to 10.000 XP.
IMO, it's not totally logical. If I have well undertood what you explained. If not, you can erase my message :lol:

I totally agree in case that the limit of 5.000 ranked players was cross when he WAS NOT on the podium, but he was on, doesn't it ?
The day before he lost his game, he was a true member of the top3 of a Game with 5000+ ranked player. So he was eligible to got a 10.000 XP Top3.

I think each time a game cross a ranked player limit number, you need to reevaluate the topX achievements for the TOP20 ranked players of the moment.

Imagine this (extrem) exemple :
I'm TOP1 of a game with only 800 ranked players. I valid the top20, top10, top5, top3, top2 and top1 achievements with low XP points because of confined game (^^).
After 2 years of ininterrupted reign, I'm still the leader ! But now, this game is a main one, and get 12.000 ranked player. I am a true legend, leading à massive played game for 2 years along !
It's totally incongruous that I need to come back down out of top20 and come back on the first place to reevaluate the XP of my achievements, and optain it like in a 10.000+ ranked game :roll:
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Re: FAQ: new achievements & XP system

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I would love it if rankings are brought back :D
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Re: FAQ: new achievements & XP system

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Lenissart wrote: 23 April 2020, 07:31 I think each time a game cross a ranked player limit number, you need to reevaluate the topX achievements for the TOP20 ranked players of the moment.
Well, we may do that. However, this case is very rare. Apart from new games, games tends to stay in their respective "categories", and for new games if your game category has changed this is highly probable than your rank has decreased.

The logic is:
_ you win an achievement after a game played, only.
_ the situation is appreciated at this exact moment.

I may looks "illogical" in some situations, but it has its own logic :)
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sprockitz wrote: 22 April 2020, 03:50
liefde_is wrote: 21 April 2020, 18:42 I'm also waiting for those played that many type of games achievement! I achieved at least that one with 3! but not seen it yet :)
I've played about 110, including 4 today and haven't seen any award yet. Guessing some bugs still to work out.
Maybe try playing a new game again? I have not received those achievements either after trying La Granja on the 22nd, but I got them yesterday, up to 50, after finishing my 1st game of K2.
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Where can we see a list of all available/potential achievements?
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Re: FAQ: new achievements & XP system

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sourisdudesert wrote: 23 April 2020, 14:23
Lenissart wrote: 23 April 2020, 07:31 I think each time a game cross a ranked player limit number, you need to reevaluate the topX achievements for the TOP20 ranked players of the moment.
Well, we may do that. However, this case is very rare. Apart from new games, games tends to stay in their respective "categories", and for new games if your game category has changed this is highly probable than your rank has decreased.

The logic is:
_ you win an achievement after a game played, only.
_ the situation is appreciated at this exact moment.

I may looks "illogical" in some situations, but it has its own logic :)
Is it evaluated every time you finish a game, or only when your ranking changes? If it is at the end of every game, this should limit the main concern here where a player becomes the best at a game and stays at #1. If you had to fall to second then regain first for it to get the new value seems silly.

Also I'd propose that when you earn a first place trophy it automatically updates trophies for 2nd, 3rd, top 5, 10, 20 as you've also achieved these. Right now we have a weird situation where to maximize XP if you are #1 you want to fall through the ranks to pickup trophies for each position.
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