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BarboRosso
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BAD reward points, what do you think?

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Player who arrives in the first positions of the ranking has a lot of difficulty in growing because the first tend not to play because if you lose a game then to recover the points you must win at least two.

If i'll lose a match (and I'm between 1-10 position) too many points will be taken away from me and this discourages the game of those who arrive in the first positions ...
In my opinion they should still leave the normal scores (in the various "group" competitions that you win with the first in the standings or with the last, the points collected are the same ...
They could introduce bonuses in such a way that LESS points are deducted from a low ranking person if he loses with a much stronger one, but at the same time if the winner does so clearly he must have bonuses.
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Re: BAD reward points, what do you think?

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BarboRosso wrote: 24 August 2020, 06:23 Player who arrives in the first positions of the ranking has a lot of difficulty in growing because the first tend not to play because if you lose a game then to recover the points you must win at least two.

If i'll lose a match (and I'm between 1-10 position) too many points will be taken away from me and this discourages the game of those who arrive in the first positions ...
In my opinion they should still leave the normal scores (in the various "group" competitions that you win with the first in the standings or with the last, the points collected are the same ...
They could introduce bonuses in such a way that LESS points are deducted from a low ranking person if he loses with a much stronger one, but at the same time if the winner does so clearly he must have bonuses.
I think you simply do not understand the purpose of the Elo system. If you are skilled at a game then you should have no fear of playing lower ranked players, knowing that you will win much more than you lose.
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Re: BAD reward points, what do you think?

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whatshisbucket wrote: 24 August 2020, 07:13
The Elo rating system was developed for Chess, a skill based 1v1 game.

It does not function well for high luck based games and multiple players, which is the case for most board games.
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Re: BAD reward points, what do you think?

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N_Faker wrote: 24 August 2020, 08:18
whatshisbucket wrote: 24 August 2020, 07:13
The Elo rating system was developed for Chess, a skill based 1v1 game.

It does not function well for high luck based games and multiple players, which is the case for most board games.
And why not, it looks like it works well to me.

If you have a better idea or solution then please share it....
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Re: BAD reward points, what do you think?

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RicardoRix wrote: 24 August 2020, 10:26
Considering your interest, maybe you want to look into this post.
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N_Faker wrote: 24 August 2020, 10:58
RicardoRix wrote: 24 August 2020, 10:26
Considering your interest, maybe you want to look into this post.
That's still the ELO system. Just some minor adjustments to the formula.
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Re: BAD reward points, what do you think?

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N_Faker wrote: 24 August 2020, 08:18It does not function well for high luck based games
It does, just the 'K-factor' should decrease when the amount of luck involved increase.
Elo in games like league of legend which have kinda lots of rng works pretty well.

Else, I don't know for numbers of players. It's way more complicated for sure.
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