Requesting a tweak to Training Mode

[vigorousRoll]

A friend recently invited me to a game that was set up in training mode. I declined because I don't like how training mode artificially reduces your displayed win %. Training mode counts the games you play but not the games you win. I've played close to 10 matches with this friend in a popular game here on BGA and can envision playing dozens more. I'd actually PREFER that these friendly matches be conducted in training mode. But the thing is, i have a nice win % in this game and don't want to send it into the toilet by playing dozens of training mode matches.

It wasn't so long ago that training mode counted the games you win as well as the games played. Then it got tweaked to ignore the number of games won. Could we now drop the other shoe and tweak it so that it also doesn't count the number of games played ?

[sourisdudesert]

Hi

We already fixed this a while ago. Now there are 2 counters for games played: a total and a numbee that exclude training (and games vs AI). Only the second one count for win %.

[Dragon712]

It's not really exact; at least in the profile, every game played is noticed as a no victory for either player(s). In exemple, i won four times in a row in training mode and it's noted (in french) : 4 parties • 0 victoires • 50% succès / For my opponent : 4 parties • 0 victoires • 0% succès
On another game i lost twice and won once : 3 parties • 0 victoires • 17% succès / For my opponent : 4 parties • 0 victoires • 25% succès (she had already played another time, also in training mode, won two against me and lost twice, once against me and her first game)

The success seems to be noticed even if it's not really true (i should have 100% success since it's a game at two players, Pencil Battle Naval); but the victories don't progress

Most of the games have a success % i don't really understand, mainly games with 2 opponents

What is asked : Then it got tweaked to ignore the number of games won (not the % but the sheer number of victories)

For people who want to learn the game, play for fun without elo, but don't want to have a counter with 0 victories forever, it could be modified

[Dragon712]

i played a new match from a game where i had victories in training mode. Got trophy for a first victory ! so really this counts only in the %, nothing else

[Angband]

Hi

We already fixed this a while ago. Now there are 2 counters for games played: a total and a numbee that exclude training (and games vs AI). Only the second one count for win %.

Can you please explain why every time I play a solo game of Bandido my win % rate goes down ?

EDIT I've only played two games outside of Training/solo and both were wins. Yet my win % is only 7% and falls lower every training/solo game I play.

[Dragon712]

Training mode counts victories and defeats in the % only; so since you got defeats in training mode, your % can go down

Furthermore, like many other games which are cooperative (but not all of them) you can't go higher than 50 % (it's like 50 % for you and 50 % for the other one(s) ). So even if you win all your games, you'll be at 50 % maximum

Your stats are also weird; you won 7, lost 9 (it must really be hard all alone, since you have so few card choices). Your % should be aroun 22 %

It is said : 16 parties • 2 victoires • 6% succès

But in your statistics : Victoires: 14

Maybe that if you play all alone the base % is counted on 12 !!! so it wouldn't be high in the beginning and with a few defeats continue to go down

You can give up sometimes (too hard for 1), and play with other players; not in training mode if you want to see your victory counter go up (and gain trophies or whatever; training mode forbids them)

[ypaul]

I have this issue too. I’ve played quite a few alpha games, and my number of games and win percentages for all the games that I’ve played in training mode while they were in alpha get carried over when they are released into beta. You can see that I even have a game with a recorded win but zero ELO (Biyi).

[firefish2000]

Hi

We already fixed this a while ago. Now there are 2 counters for games played: a total and a numbee that exclude training (and games vs AI). Only the second one count for win %.

This does not seem fixed. What vigorousRoll stated still seems to be true based on what I've seen in various people's stats. The win percentage seems to be calculated using the number of normal and training games played, but only includes the normal game victories as full wins and training games victories as half wins. If someone had a high win percentage and then played training mode for a while and didn't win every game in training mode, their win percentage seems to go down. Shouldn't training mode games be completely excluded from win %?