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catelier
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IS BGA CHEATER and controle the dice rollers ?

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IS BGA CHEATER and controle the dice rollers ?

8 dobles in a game is impossible in LIVE
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yep
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I GOT SO MANY EXAMPLES
IT IS FUNNY VERY SURPRISING
THE COMPETITION ARENA HAVE NO MEANING
NB I WAS FIRST LAST SUMMER DURING 3 DAYS AND NOW 1004 ° AT BACKGAMMON
I LOOSED AGAIN PLAYERS WHO PLAYS LIKE BEGINNERS I DOMINATED DURING ALL THE GAME BUT AT THE END
DOBLES DOBLES OR MAGICS THROWS
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Maybe you should stop playing luck based game if you dont like that ?
Please go in the backgammon forum to see many more threads with similar discussions that ends up nowhere in general, mostly because not actual stats were ever provided by people claiming rigged behavior
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You can check my specific post here: https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... 7&start=13

Probability for a specific player to have 8 doubles on a game of 19 rolls is 0.61%.
Your opponent will have that 1 game out of 165.

It's commun, it happen every day.
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catelier wrote: 28 March 2021, 16:46 IS BGA CHEATER and controle the dice rollers ?

8 dobles in a game is impossible in LIVE
I agree with you that backgammon seems less random on this site.

But... you can play against 100 doubles, people will still say it is... rare, but possible, and you only have bad luck. Nothing you can do
Anything you say and even if you bring stats... The result reply will be: it is rare, but COMMON AND POSSIBLE. YOU ARE JUST UNLUCKY.
So really not worth trying to get into this, because anything is possible and acceptable (even if your opponents get 100000... doubles in a row).

And for all of you who say that no statistic or proof is brought (about doubles, in this case), try to understand please: THERE IS A DAILY LIMIT OF REPLAYS!
I personally stopped playing BG here, after seeing how sad things go...
To the OP: I think you should try to play games where more brain is needed. You might have a bigger chance, there.
When life gives you a ZeMon, make ZeMonade...
https://youtu.be/fq_EAESWlOs
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Tisaac wrote: 28 March 2021, 17:26 Maybe you should stop playing luck based game if you dont like that ?
Please go in the backgammon forum to see many more threads with similar discussions that ends up nowhere in general, mostly because not actual stats were ever provided by people claiming rigged behavior
There were a few stats, immediately dismissed as unconvincing, because you prefer heavier numbers to make you think something is weird (ex. 105 doubles in a row instead of 100, or etc.).
And these stats are usually impossible to be given because: THE SITE IS NOT ALLOWING IT! DAILY LIMIT OF REPLAYS!
Cheers.
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Ze Monstah wrote: 28 March 2021, 19:00
catelier wrote: 28 March 2021, 16:46 IS BGA CHEATER and controle the dice rollers ?

8 dobles in a game is impossible in LIVE
I agree with you that backgammon seems less random on this site.

But... you can play against 100 doubles, people will still say it is... rare, but possible, and you only have bad luck. Nothing you can do
Anything you say and even if you bring stats... The result reply will be: it is rare, but COMMON AND POSSIBLE. YOU ARE JUST UNLUCKY.
So really not worth trying to get into this, because anything is possible and acceptable (even if your opponents get 100000... doubles in a row).

And for all of you who say that no statistic or proof is brought (about doubles, in this case), try to understand please: THERE IS A DAILY LIMIT OF REPLAYS!
I personally stopped playing BG here, after seeing how sad things go...
To the OP: I think you should try to play games where more brain is needed. You might have a bigger chance, there.
So what ? Just collect data as you play. If you are a determined player, it shouldnt take you that long to gather data significant enough.
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And also, tired of this brainless argument "why aren't people with huge elo ever complaining about dice?"
I complained about this when i was over 390!
And i will always do it, until i see some true randomness on the issue, like IRL.
When life gives you a ZeMon, make ZeMonade...
https://youtu.be/fq_EAESWlOs
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Tisaac wrote: 28 March 2021, 19:07
Ze Monstah wrote: 28 March 2021, 19:00
catelier wrote: 28 March 2021, 16:46 IS BGA CHEATER and controle the dice rollers ?

8 dobles in a game is impossible in LIVE
I agree with you that backgammon seems less random on this site.

But... you can play against 100 doubles, people will still say it is... rare, but possible, and you only have bad luck. Nothing you can do
Anything you say and even if you bring stats... The result reply will be: it is rare, but COMMON AND POSSIBLE. YOU ARE JUST UNLUCKY.
So really not worth trying to get into this, because anything is possible and acceptable (even if your opponents get 100000... doubles in a row).

And for all of you who say that no statistic or proof is brought (about doubles, in this case), try to understand please: THERE IS A DAILY LIMIT OF REPLAYS!
I personally stopped playing BG here, after seeing how sad things go...
To the OP: I think you should try to play games where more brain is needed. You might have a bigger chance, there.
So what ? Just collect data as you play. If you are a determined player, it shouldnt take you that long to gather data significant enough.
So what nada... I am not a determined player anymore, as to gather some data which will be automatically dismissed as unconvincing by any of you defenders (again... even 1000000 doubles in a row will be found acceptable by you, being a luck based game), but i was determined enough to express my thoughts, which are unshared by you.
Again... SOMEONE SHOULD TAKE A RE-LOOK ON THE ALGORITHM USED.
Good luck playing backgammon.

// Roll dices
$dice1_value = bga_rand(1, 6);
$dice2_value = bga_rand(1, 6);

bga_rand() function is defined like this:

function bga_rand( $min=null, $max=null )
{
if( $min === null && $max === null )
return random_int( 0, getrandmax() ); // For compatibility
else
return random_int( $min, $max );
}
When life gives you a ZeMon, make ZeMonade...
https://youtu.be/fq_EAESWlOs
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