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Hiddenfox
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BGA using cookies without your consent

Post by Hiddenfox »

I recently discovered BGA wich seemed like a great website but is trying to force me to get a premium account by spying on private informations without any autorisation.
My sister and I are trying to play with friends online but because we (obviously) live in the same place, we can't play together with our friends at the same time. But even if we connect on 2 differents IP adresses and after deleting all cookies and navigation data, this website is still saying that we are in the same place, wich means that this website is getting your location without your consent, wich is illegal in the EU, according to the GDPR, article 7.

This website is a scam

Respectfully

A deceived user who can't play with his friends because of an illegal cookie.
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Benoit314
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Re: BGA using cookies without your consent

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The Confidentiality and Cookies page describes all the data collected, it includes your IP address. You were both connected at the same address at some point, I suppose the website considers you live at the same location based on your history.

I don't see where the scam is, the conditions specifically says that you cannot play from the same location and you are trying to do so. Licenses for games aren't free, and publishers agree to put their game here considering you cannot play from the same address.

Only one of you need to be premium to play together.
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aesche
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Lol, noooo, BGA never would do anything that isn‘t GDPR conform :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hiddenfox
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Re: BGA using cookies without your consent

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Benoit314 wrote: 14 June 2021, 21:47 The Confidentiality and Cookies page describes all the data collected, it includes your IP address. You were both connected at the same address at some point, I suppose the website considers you live at the same location based on your history.

I don't see where the scam is, the conditions specifically says that you cannot play from the same location and you are trying to do so. Licenses for games aren't free, and publishers agree to put their game here considering you cannot play from the same address.

Only one of you need to be premium to play together.
Your answer could be true but even when we have not the same IP adress and I erased all my navigation data, the message still continue to show up, prving that it uses something more than only your IP adress.
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sprockitz
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Re: BGA using cookies without your consent

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Hiddenfox wrote: 14 June 2021, 22:07
Benoit314 wrote: 14 June 2021, 21:47 The Confidentiality and Cookies page describes all the data collected, it includes your IP address. You were both connected at the same address at some point, I suppose the website considers you live at the same location based on your history.

I don't see where the scam is, the conditions specifically says that you cannot play from the same location and you are trying to do so. Licenses for games aren't free, and publishers agree to put their game here considering you cannot play from the same address.

Only one of you need to be premium to play together.
Your answer could be true but even when we have not the same IP adress and I erased all my navigation data, the message still continue to show up, prving that it uses something more than only your IP adress.
That doesn't prove it uses more than IP address, it shows it uses more than the current IP address. I believe there is some IP history so if they match then this will pop up, even if you aren't in the same place at the moment.
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Benoit314
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That exactly what I meant.
Based on your IP address history and maybe other parameters, BGA determines you live at the same location.

Even if you erase your navigation data, you still have to connect to your account to play... Erasing your navigation data doesn't erase your account and the things you did with it.
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Tisaac
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Benoit314 wrote: 15 June 2021, 12:57 Even if you erase your navigation data, you still have to connect to your account to play... Erasing your navigation data doesn't erase your account and the things you did with it.
Why would you think it would do that ? How does the platform is supposed to compute ELO, know who your friends are, ... otherwise ?
Hiddenfox
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And do you find normal that because you tried to play ONE TIME with someone at the same place, you are condemned to never play with him/her anymore?
This is clearly unfair and nearly illegal to force someone to pay while others don't have to while they are in the same situation. In civilised societies, we call that discrimination.

At least, BGA should try to allow playing with the same IP adress if we play in private games with people that are not at the same place. Because here, me and my sister are just forbidden to play with our friends at the same time. This is clearly unfair to pay to resolve this situation.

Moreover, it is never mentionned in the TCU that you can't play from the same ip adress. They are restricting access without respecting what they have themselves written.
yogamaster
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Hiddenfox wrote: 19 June 2021, 15:52 And do you find normal that because you tried to play ONE TIME with someone at the same place, you are condemned to never play with him/her anymore?
This is clearly unfair and nearly illegal to force someone to pay while others don't have to while they are in the same situation. In civilised societies, we call that discrimination.

At least, BGA should try to allow playing with the same IP adress if we play in private games with people that are not at the same place. Because here, me and my sister are just forbidden to play with our friends at the same time. This is clearly unfair to pay to resolve this situation.

Moreover, it is never mentionned in the TCU that you can't play from the same ip adress. They are restricting access without respecting what they have themselves written.
I agree.
Maybe suggest a change to BGA?
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coxy5
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Re: BGA using cookies without your consent

Post by coxy5 »

Hiddenfox wrote: 19 June 2021, 15:52 And do you find normal that because you tried to play ONE TIME with someone at the same place, you are condemned to never play with him/her anymore?
This is clearly unfair and nearly illegal to force someone to pay while others don't have to while they are in the same situation. In civilised societies, we call that discrimination.

At least, BGA should try to allow playing with the same IP adress if we play in private games with people that are not at the same place. Because here, me and my sister are just forbidden to play with our friends at the same time. This is clearly unfair to pay to resolve this situation.

Moreover, it is never mentionned in the TCU that you can't play from the same ip adress. They are restricting access without respecting what they have themselves written.
From the FAQ:

Why is "playing from the same location" restricted to Premium members?
Playing on BGA from the same location is not something common since if you are at the same place you can play the real physical board game. It makes sense to make it a Premium feature, so that using BGA remains a way to discover and enjoy board games with the whole world and does not become a means to avoid buying the real physical game.

With this restriction, we also intend to limit the potential for cheaters to play against themselves in order to boost their rankings.
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