tiebreak in swiss tournaments?

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DukeOfPrunes
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tiebreak in swiss tournaments?

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Which is the tiebreak in swiss multiplayer tournaments?
Say, in a Love letter tournament, two player end with 15 points.
Is there any rule? Elo? Oldest membership? Being a princess?
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st41116
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Re: tiebreak in swiss tournaments?

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I want to ask this question, too...
I've searched a lot of article in this forum
Somebody says tie-breaker is ELO (ELO lower win),
Somebody says tie-breaker is total points (Add up all the games points)
Besides thinking time (use fewer player win), random , register date....

I've searchsd some tournaments history
It appears that some counterexample... :?:
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ibize
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Re: tiebreak in swiss tournaments?

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I was wondering the same thing. Based on some private tournaments I played with friends, I think this is the current rules:

1) Opponents points. For every match it adds how many points the opponents had at the end of the tournament. So it ranks how good a player is based on the number of points he made, and it tie break in favor of players that had played against the more difficult players.

2) Opponents average ELO. If that still a tie (in our private tournaments it almost always is, because we play the same matches against each other), then it should average the ELO of the players you play against. But as I think it was mentioned in other post, this doesn't seem to be calculated correctly. It looks like instead of averaging the ELO by adding the ELO of each one and dividing by the number of players, instead it seems to be multiplying by the number of players, which messes it up the computation specially in tournaments when the number of players per match can be different (like we tried to do in one of our tournaments, where we would play 3 player + 2 player match each round).

You can see these values pressing the + sign at the bottom of the tournament.
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Again, this is just me guessing based on the data I have seen so far.
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