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shrouded figure
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Re: Please do not say gg if it is literally not a "good game"

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Silene wrote: 28 July 2021, 19:37 Should we also stop saying "good morning" to the person in the bakery? I mean - they have to get up at like 5am. Can't that only be a shitty morning? Isn't saying good morning to them kinda mocking?
Again, context matters. If someone shows up late to a meeting what they should say is "sorry to be late" and not merely a generic "good morning", for instance.

I'm not saying gg should be totally not used at all. It should depend on situation. Otherwise, saying gg for all games all the time is no different from what a bot can do too. It loses any polite meaning it has.
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Re: Please do not say gg if it is literally not a "good game"

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Il est curieux de constater que, à peu près neuf fois sur dix, les joueurs qui disent "gg" quand ils gagnent une partie ne disent rien du tout quand ils perdent.

En fait il suffit juste de vérifier sur les parties précédentes des joueurs, et notamment celles qu'ils ont perdues, pour se rendre compte s'ils sont sincères ou non.

Soit c'est du fair-play, et le "gg" est systématique, parties perdues comme parties gagnées, soit c'est juste pour les parties gagnées et dans ce cas là c'est inacceptable.
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Re: Please do not say gg if it is literally not a "good game"

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Re: Please do not say gg if it is literally not a "good game"

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shrouded figure wrote: 26 July 2021, 05:06 Just... STOP. It is phony, condescending, and you can be better than that.
Condescending? Seems more like your post is such. Why get so upset about it?

I play a lot of Hearts. A large minority of players get very pushed out of shape when someone doesn't cover a possible moonshot or pass a low heart to, hopefully, prevent such. "Good game", or "gg", at least to me and many others refers to the demanor of play, not to the calibre of execution. If you want to comment on a well played game, how about "well played", or "wp"?

I coached a bit of high school sports where "good game" was something players said to the other team at the end of the game whether winning or losing. Just good sprotsmanship. Would it have made you happier if the winners instead chimed "you sucked"?
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Re: Please do not say gg if it is literally not a "good game"

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SleeperService wrote: 14 August 2021, 03:30
shrouded figure wrote: 26 July 2021, 05:06 Just... STOP. It is phony, condescending, and you can be better than that.
Condescending? Seems more like your post is such. Why get so upset about it?

I play a lot of Hearts. A large minority of players get very pushed out of shape when someone doesn't cover a possible moonshot or pass a low heart to, hopefully, prevent such. "Good game", or "gg", at least to me and many others refers to the demanor of play, not to the calibre of execution. If you want to comment on a well played game, how about "well played", or "wp"?

I coached a bit of high school sports where "good game" was something players said to the other team at the end of the game whether winning or losing. Just good sprotsmanship. Would it have made you happier if the winners instead chimed "you sucked"?
I never had a problem saying gg at the end of a fair game or sports even if I lose.
But, if the opponent committed fouls then I would never say gg. And if they say gg? Then it is no different from an insult in such a case.
This is the type of specific situation I am referring to.
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Re: Please do not say gg if it is literally not a "good game"

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I dislike people who say GG before the game starts. GG means good game and is used at the end when the game is over. It is like saying: You are losers, gg i already won." And i am offended personally.
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Re: Please do not say gg if it is literally not a "good game"

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shrouded figure wrote: 17 August 2021, 17:08 I never had a problem saying gg at the end of a fair game or sports even if I lose.
But, if the opponent committed fouls then I would never say gg. And if they say gg? Then it is no different from an insult in such a case.
This is the type of specific situation I am referring to.
I think it’s fair to say gg even if either one of us commits a blunder. Just because someone messed up at one point (potentially causing them the game) doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a good game or a good effort. I think it’s the process that matters, not the outcome.
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Re: Please do not say gg if it is literally not a "good game"

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ypaul wrote: 20 August 2021, 18:45
shrouded figure wrote: 17 August 2021, 17:08 I never had a problem saying gg at the end of a fair game or sports even if I lose.
But, if the opponent committed fouls then I would never say gg. And if they say gg? Then it is no different from an insult in such a case.
This is the type of specific situation I am referring to.
I think it’s fair to say gg even if either one of us commits a blunder. Just because someone messed up at one point (potentially causing them the game) doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a good game or a good effort. I think it’s the process that matters, not the outcome.
So if an experienced player let's say... kingmakes someone, or makes a totally illogical move in a game, leaving the other players shocked, and then says "gg"... are the other ones forbidden to express their disatisfaction, otherwise they are all "s*re losers"?
Unless their disatisfaction contains insults, i think they are entitled to criticise, and no "gg" has its place in such a case. (of course they might get moderated 'cause no mather how diplomatic the criticising is, the "gg" person might feel insulted, even if (s)he ruined the game).

I disagree with what you are saying, and i find it disrespectful towards most of competitive players.

This is a gaming site, after all, and most games are on a competitive level.

In my personal opinion, i think too many people act like the games are some social gathering, a party, yoga, or whatever... and they take the "i play just for FUN" to some... unrealistic levels.

And if/when they simply ruin a game, and are asked about it, instead of saying "sorry", explain the reasoning or anything similar, they come up with "lol", "haha", "chill, don't be m*d, just a game".

Like a person who already asked: if ANY game, after its end, is good... why do you even say "gg"?

I am not sure if this is ok, but of course... anyone can say "gg", in any situation.
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Re: Please do not say gg if it is literally not a "good game"

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Let me rephrase. If someone wasn’t being very sportsmanlike, then perhaps it doesn’t warrant a gg, but if there was no malicious intent, then I believe that it’s perfectly justified to say gg regardless of which side you’re on. I think the situation that the OP is referring to is more about a skill gap or a bad play, rather than someone just being obnoxious.
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Re: Please do not say gg if it is literally not a "good game"

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ypaul wrote: 21 August 2021, 13:19 Let me rephrase. If someone wasn’t being very sportsmanlike, then perhaps it doesn’t warrant a gg, but if there was no malicious intent, then I believe that it’s perfectly justified to say gg regardless of which side you’re on. I think the situation that the OP is referring to is more about a skill gap or a bad play, rather than someone just being obnoxious.
OK, I let you rephrase, and I still agree 100% with the OP.

Are you sure a game in which someone was malicious and unfair, kingmade, cheated or quit, couldn't also be a "gg" ? :))

Question, again: If all games are "gg" by default, why even bother to say "gg" ?
Doesn't it seem a bit, robotic, cheap and shallow ?

Someone gave the comparison with the baker situation, in the morning (i think it was you).

The difference is that saying "good morning, day, etc." to a person is unrelated to anything in those people's lives (you give "good morning" at the beginning of a day, to that baker), while "gg" is about a game you just played with some other player(s).
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