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Re: Pronouns for users with unknown gender
Posted: 02 October 2020, 22:39
by merlin they them
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑24 August 2020, 12:29
If you don't set your gender then you can't really get upset if a computer misgenders you.
This isn't true. The computer is not the one doing the misgendering. The misgendering is done by the dev who wrote the code. Whether it was intentional or not, the dev is misgendering people by not thinking more inclusively. Also, BGA only has 2 gender options, so if you're a one of the many other options, you either have to misgender yourself, or choose "Do not display" and get misgendered anyway.
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑16 September 2020, 20:25
I can't see why we can't have "his / her" as default to be substituted with "his" or "her" if the player has set their gender.
It's not ungrammatical, it doesn't misgender anyone but allows people to have the correct possessive adjective if they want.
This is also not true. Many people may identify as one gender but not use the pronouns typically associated with that gender (i.e. a woman may use they/them or he/him or some other set of pronouns).
Also, while "his/her" is grammatical, it is not inclusive to those who do not use those pronouns. Using "they/them/their" is a long standing, commonly used, grammatical usage that is gender neutral and inclusive.
Re: Pronouns for users with unknown gender
Posted: 03 October 2020, 09:50
by Giordano Bruno 1974
merlin they them wrote: ↑02 October 2020, 22:39
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑24 August 2020, 12:29
If you don't set your gender then you can't really get upset if a computer misgenders you.
This isn't true. The computer is not the one doing the misgendering. The misgendering is done by the dev who wrote the code. Whether it was intentional or not, the dev is misgendering people by not thinking more inclusively. Also, BGA only has 2 gender options, so if you're a one of the many other options, you either have to misgender yourself, or choose "Do not display" and get misgendered anyway.
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑16 September 2020, 20:25
I can't see why we can't have "his / her" as default to be substituted with "his" or "her" if the player has set their gender.
It's not ungrammatical, it doesn't misgender anyone but allows people to have the correct possessive adjective if they want.
This is also not true. Many people may identify as one gender but not use the pronouns typically associated with that gender (i.e. a woman may use they/them or he/him or some other set of pronouns).
Also, while "his/her" is grammatical, it is not inclusive to those who do not use those pronouns. Using "they/them/their" is a long standing, commonly used, grammatical usage that is gender neutral and inclusive.
Call me old-fashioned but I do not care about people of one gender who wish to use the pronouns of the other.
I'm fine with trans before anyone goes down that route but a man who wants to be "her" is simply annoying.
Re: Pronouns for users with unknown gender
Posted: 03 October 2020, 15:50
by N_Faker
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑03 October 2020, 09:50
I'm fine with trans before anyone goes down that route but a man who wants to be "her" is simply annoying.
It looks like you contradicted yourself in the very same sentence.
Re: Pronouns for users with unknown gender
Posted: 03 October 2020, 15:52
by Giordano Bruno 1974
N_Faker wrote: ↑03 October 2020, 15:50
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑03 October 2020, 09:50
I'm fine with trans before anyone goes down that route but a man who wants to be "her" is simply annoying.
It looks like you contradicted yourself in the very same sentence.
Not at all. Trans are people who identify as a different gender and are happy to be addressed as such. I'm fine with that.
Someone who claims to be a man but wants to be addressed as "her" is just annoying.
Re: Pronouns for users with unknown gender
Posted: 04 October 2020, 00:48
by N_Faker
I didn't actually see that the post you quoted was about genderfluidity. Though it did look contradictory out of context.