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Re: get out of a game with a bot
Posted: 29 November 2025, 12:24
by euklid314
Meeplelowda wrote: ↑29 November 2025, 12:15
euklid314 wrote: ↑29 November 2025, 12:11
Jellby wrote: ↑29 November 2025, 11:35
Hmm... I guess if you could also demand to get out of a game with a grand master, a superhero, a criminal, a flightless bird, a fictional detective, an extinct reptile... they're all in the name too, you know. It makes me wonder how many people have refused to play with me just because they think I'm an impossible object
The google search "What is a Jellby?" was interesting but did not make me wiser.
I think the impossible object is their avatar. Of course, I have an unfair advantage in Nova Luna.
Ah, the Avatar. As a mathematician and geometer I am not afraid of the tribar (Penrose triangle) but I well understand people who are.
Re: get out of a game with a bot
Posted: 29 November 2025, 18:11
by SerBaldur
I followed the link to the policy discussion. The discussion went to a bunch of links that others in the discussion said were not helpful.
"Report this player" listed a bunch of reasons that I might report someone, but being a bot was not among them
Re: get out of a game with a bot
Posted: 29 November 2025, 18:17
by SerBaldur
euklid314 wrote: ↑29 November 2025, 10:00
SerBaldur wrote: ↑29 November 2025, 09:40
FrankJones wrote: ↑28 November 2025, 17:36
How do you know it's a bot ?
It's in the name
Any human can choose a user name which includes "bot" in the name. The player you mentioned has played 30+ different games and thus cannot be a bot.
There have been single cases where somebody has programmed a bot that could play a single game autonomously (e.g. Azul). But this is not allowed by BGA rules.
It made me think he was using the account at least in an attempt to gather data for training purposes, which I would like to not be part of. I was actually more interested in the longer term ability and preparedness of the site to prevent AI assisted and training participation, bec I do think it will lead to the death of online games. But I suppose it is impossible to prevent that, and we will all be overrun by ai everywhere and not be able to do anything about it
Re: get out of a game with a bot
Posted: 29 November 2025, 18:20
by FrankJones
SerBaldur wrote: ↑29 November 2025, 18:11
I followed the link to the policy discussion. The discussion went to a bunch of links that others in the discussion said were not helpful.
"Report this player" listed a bunch of reasons that I might report someone, but being a bot was not among them
You're still trying to report a player for being a bot based entirely on the username? With no actual evidence of cheating? My understanding is that if you do that, you may be the one who gets punished.
Re: get out of a game with a bot
Posted: 30 November 2025, 08:48
by nik592
You know, I suspect that SerBaldur would be a slower player on account of them seeming to be a fantasy race dwarf, so I'm not totally sure I would want to play with them either because I prefer fast games. I probably should red thumb them on that basis.
(/sarcasm)
It's in the name? Really? Meeplelowda isn't an actual Meeple. euklid probably isn't a famous mathematician (although the spelling variation might give that away). And I would be unsurprised to learn that FrankJones's real name isn't actually Frank OR Jones (but I guess you never know).
Re: get out of a game with a bot
Posted: 30 November 2025, 10:17
by euklid314
nik592 wrote: ↑30 November 2025, 08:48
euklid probably isn't a famous mathematician (although the spelling variation might give that away).
Haha, If you only knew...
Side note: Euklid is the german spelling of Euclid. It is Eukleides in greek and Euclides in the latin form.
Re: get out of a game with a bot
Posted: 30 November 2025, 11:16
by Jellby
nik592 wrote: ↑30 November 2025, 08:48
euklid probably isn't a famous mathematician
He said he's a mathematician, I wouldn't dare to say he's not famous (although there are not many famous mathematicians). He's probably not 2300 years old though.
Re: get out of a game with a bot
Posted: 30 November 2025, 11:34
by nik592
euklid314 wrote: ↑30 November 2025, 10:17
nik592 wrote: ↑30 November 2025, 08:48
euklid probably isn't a famous mathematician (although the spelling variation might give that away).
Haha, If you only knew...
Side note: Euklid is the german spelling of Euclid. It is Eukleides in greek and Euclides in the latin form.
Fair. I don't claim to be an expert on Euclid/Euklid. Or German.
Jellby wrote: ↑30 November 2025, 11:16
He's probably not 2300 years old though.
You never know...
Re: get out of a game with a bot
Posted: 01 December 2025, 15:45
by Ceaseless
SerBaldur wrote: ↑29 November 2025, 18:11
I followed the link to the policy discussion. The discussion went to a bunch of links that others in the discussion said were not helpful.
"Report this player" listed a bunch of reasons that I might report someone, but being a bot was not among them
Moderation reports are for real problems, not fictional situations. They have actual reports to take care of, and only so much time to do it. It's one thing to post it here for other users to make fun of it. But to post it as if it was a legitimate report is a great way for the mods to decide you're trolling and wasting their time, and I'd imagine that's probably one of the things they had in mind when they mention moderating users for false reports.
Re: get out of a game with a bot
Posted: 02 December 2025, 05:21
by FSKFSK
Why should bots be banned? If there were competent bots, that could be used as a solution for "player times out in tournament game"?
I agree that, if bots are allowed, players should be allowed to refuse to play them. (probably via a profile setting or identifying the bots waiting for a game)
Writing a bot that played every game on BGA competently would be pretty impressive AI.