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charliec247
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Re: To Prelude or Not to Prelude

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In no game ever does single target attacks ever make sense in 3P. You spend resources, an opponent loses resources, and the third player gets off scot-free.
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SYushen
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RoyalRook wrote: 09 November 2024, 16:10 3p is not the most popular format, the hit cards are pointless in 3p but makes all the senses in 2p matches since it's a fully zero sum setting. Awards are all or nothing instead of king making in 3p. Once you are reached certain skill level, you won't bother wasting time in 3p games. 2p matches are for the true masters of the game. You have to understand, most players like you never competed with real top players, especially in online settings.
The live tournament "champions?" I saw their plays, they have no chance of competing with people online. 3p is still cute, I play it right?
The BGG profile page clearly states 3p is the most popular player count. That 2p games may be played more by a smaller portion of players doesn’t change the fact.
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RoyalRook wrote: 09 November 2024, 16:10 3p is not the most popular format, the hit cards are pointless in 3p but makes all the senses in 2p matches since it's a fully zero sum setting. Awards are all or nothing instead of king making in 3p. Once you are reached certain skill level, you won't bother wasting time in 3p games. 2p matches are for the true masters of the game. You have to understand, most players like you never competed with real top players, especially in online settings.
The live tournament "champions?" I saw their plays, they have no chance of competing with people online. 3p is still cute, I play it right?
Even if you are right, which you very well might be, I advise you to watch how you come across. Putting it politely, your tone in this and many other posts I have seen from you do not shine a good light on you.
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RoyalRook
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SYushen wrote: 11 November 2024, 03:17 The BGG profile page clearly states 3p is the most popular player count. That 2p games may be played more by a smaller portion of players doesn’t change the fact.
@cranes when someone say things like this what do you want me to do? I am trying to level up players here as fast as I can before the steam community rolling in here for 2p matches and destroy the rankings. I don't have time to be nice, you guys just need to learn and play, don't worry about anything else.

And BY THE WAY, everything I said about the game is true, otherwise I wouldn't have said anything, becasue why would I? I got nothing need to proof, it's just me and math. You either agree with me now, or you agree with me 2 to 3 years later if you continuing working on your game and leveling up.
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cranesflyhigh
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RoyalRook wrote: 11 November 2024, 05:05
SYushen wrote: 11 November 2024, 03:17 The BGG profile page clearly states 3p is the most popular player count. That 2p games may be played more by a smaller portion of players doesn’t change the fact.
@cranes when someone say things like this what do you want me to do? I am trying to level up players here as fast as I can before the steam community rolling in here for 2p matches and destroy the rankings. I don't have time to be nice, you guys just need to learn and play, don't worry about anything else.

And BY THE WAY, everything I said about the game is true, otherwise I wouldn't have said anything, becasue why would I? I got nothing need to proof, it's just me and math. You either agree with me now, or you agree with me 2 to 3 years later if you continuing working on your game and leveling up.
"I don't have time to be nice" is something bullies say. It shouldn't take any extra time to not sound condescending. You choose to come across that way. And this way, even if your messages are correct, they are much harder to swallow. People don't want to learn from bullies.
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RoyalRook
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I only care for people who learns, most don't and never will.
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cranesflyhigh
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RoyalRook wrote: 11 November 2024, 07:03 I only care for people who learns, most don't and never will.
"Lessons learned from playing board games: Be Kind, do NOT underestimate, take the sure things."

This is your profile text. BE KIND. Seems like since you didn't learn it, you don't care for yourself either.
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Could an argument be made for 3p being more competitive, in that it allows you to 2v1 the one with better cards?
brh2113 wrote: 08 November 2024, 22:14 Generally the top players from the Steam ecosystem (which has been around for years and is very mature) and the tournament scene play 2p with preludes almost exclusively, so you won't see them in arena too much until the settings change. But generally 2p with preludes is considered the highest skill cap format and best for competitive play.
Why do people consider 2p with preludes more competitive than without?
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Kulikk
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Gnugly wrote: 11 November 2024, 10:29 Could an argument be made for 3p being more competitive, in that it allows you to 2v1 the one with better cards?
brh2113 wrote: 08 November 2024, 22:14 Generally the top players from the Steam ecosystem (which has been around for years and is very mature) and the tournament scene play 2p with preludes almost exclusively, so you won't see them in arena too much until the settings change. But generally 2p with preludes is considered the highest skill cap format and best for competitive play.
Why do people consider 2p with preludes more competitive than without?
Because preludes limit the chance of a "dead hand"
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RoyalRook
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Gnugly wrote: 11 November 2024, 10:29 Could an argument be made for 3p being more competitive, in that it allows you to 2v1 the one with better cards?
brh2113 wrote: 08 November 2024, 22:14 Generally the top players from the Steam ecosystem (which has been around for years and is very mature) and the tournament scene play 2p with preludes almost exclusively, so you won't see them in arena too much until the settings change. But generally 2p with preludes is considered the highest skill cap format and best for competitive play.
Why do people consider 2p with preludes more competitive than without?
Once you reach 1800+ elo in the steam app, 2p prelude became a different game for you. Every decision with prelude is also more dynamic with tempo acceleration.
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