Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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JoysJoy
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Re: Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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I just don't understand this post in general. Why now? Why post this type of post after more than 4 years and 2,000 games on BGA? It reads like a new person posted, someone who just has not been here long.

But this cannot possibly be a new issue. Why bother with this after so long being here and so many games? You know what you are getting into with each game since years ago. No point to this complaint but to stir up the pot
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Re: Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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JoysJoy wrote: 04 June 2024, 16:35 I just don't understand this post in general. Why now? Why post this type of post after more than 4 years and 2,000 games on BGA? It reads like a new person posted, someone who just has not been here long.

But this cannot possibly be a new issue to the OP. Why bother with this after so long being here and so many games? You know what you are getting into with each game since years ago. No point to this complaint but to stir up the pot
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Re: Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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JoysJoy wrote: 04 June 2024, 16:35 I just don't understand this post in general. Why now? Why post this type of post after more than 4 years and 2,000 games on BGA? It reads like a new person posted, someone who just has not been here long.

But this cannot possibly be a new issue. Why bother with this after so long being here and so many games? You know what you are getting into with each game since years ago. No point to this complaint but to stir up the pot
At this point, I am pretty convinced that we are interacting with an internet troll seeking attention. There is no other way to make sense of his replies to the arguments made in this thread.
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Re: Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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The guy just throwed a tantrum because he was expelled from a game.

He just wanted to vent out some steam with an argument.
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Re: Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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When I was slow and be booted, i will still say sorry for being slow to the player who booted me.

When you play 9sec per move and you used up your time bank of 90 sec, you have already used 10x the average move time extra.

The time settings already give you this extra time. But apparently some people need extra extra time. (I sometimes do too, but then I know it's my bad and if I get booted it's my fault)
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Re: Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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buu441 wrote: 04 June 2024, 16:47 At this point, I am pretty convinced that we are interacting with an internet troll seeking attention. There is no other way to make sense of his replies to the arguments made in this thread.
I don't think they are a troll, more someone who thinks their way of seeing the world is the only right one. This is not the first time a thread like this has been posted by the user, they have received similar feedback from the community in the past, and yet, they re-emerge to tell everyone that certain settings are needed to improve the gaming experience for everyone (when generally, they probably wouldn't even improve the gaming experience for their specific complaints).

Probably I shouldn't respond. But sometimes I wonder if I might get through to people like this one day (and typically, silence doesn't make them go away anyway).
Boudica of Celtia wrote: 04 June 2024, 22:46 The time settings already give you this extra time. But apparently some people need extra extra time. (I sometimes do too, but then I know it's my bad and if I get booted it's my fault)
Exactly. I generally don't boot people immediately, but I understand that if I run over time, people have to right to boot me, whether at 20 seconds or days (though, I've never been over time by days, but I have booted people who have been). I do sometimes think less of someone who boots at their first opportunity, or does so in a tournament (which is usually the only place I run over time anyway), but I red thumb and move on.
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Re: Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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Jellby wrote: 03 June 2024, 21:00 Pressing the nuclear button is already a notice, it gives 20 seconds to react (in real-time). I sometimes wait 10-20 second, press the button, wait the compulsory 20 seconds, then wait some 10-20 seconds more.
What you are saying makes sense, and I would play similarly, such a situation would occur. My opponent in the game that triggered the discussion was light-years away from it

Just consider nevertheless that in a very tight game, moreover when it is the last move and it may decide the winner, you may be concentrated on your game, not noticing the red light flashing meanwhile. That was probably what happened to me.
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Re: Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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Cile wrote: 04 June 2024, 01:41
Hagardunor wrote: 03 June 2024, 20:20 fair is one second to 1 hour.
You're at a table with a +9 second turn time, a time bank maximum of less than 1 minute and 30 seconds, and a total expected game time of 12 minutes.
And you expect players to wait an hour before booting you? That is absurd.

Weren't you the one saying you don't want to play on "friendly mode" because you want to make sure your opponents are playing at a decent pace? I don't believe for a second that if another player was not taking their turn you would wait an hour before ejecting them.

If you want that much lenience the play "Fast Turn-based (24 moves a day)".
You cut my full response, which completely change the sense. The full quote is : "fair is one second to 1 hour.Just notice opponent before pressing the nuclear button is starting to be fair".

What you quote is a figure of style meaning time is not the main issue. The big issue is one's behavior with opponents as well as with partners
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Re: Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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Suoivax wrote: 04 June 2024, 13:32
Cile wrote: 04 June 2024, 01:41
Hagardunor wrote: 03 June 2024, 20:20 fair is one second to 1 hour.
You're at a table with a +9 second turn time, a time bank maximum of less than 1 minute and 30 seconds, and a total expected game time of 12 minutes.
And you expect players to wait an hour before booting you? That is absurd.

Weren't you the one saying you don't want to play on "friendly mode" because you want to make sure your opponents are playing at a decent pace? I don't believe for a second that if another player was not taking their turn you would wait an hour before ejecting them.

If you want that much lenience the play "Fast Turn-based (24 moves a day)".
Not to mention his other major complaint being people who have 100+ games going, because they can't possibly be expected to be prompt with their turns. And now he wants an hour?
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Re: Did you meet unfair players ? I did 2 times in a row, and it drove me nuts

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Hagardunor wrote: 05 June 2024, 11:20 Just consider nevertheless that in a very tight game, moreover when it is the last move and it may decide the winner, you may be concentrated on your game, not noticing the red light flashing meanwhile. That was probably what happened to me.
So you lost because you played badly?

To be clear 'clocking' your opponent is a perfectly fair way to win in a competitive 2 player game. People who have actually played competitive games will know, and people not tying themselves in knots to defend an absurd position, will understand, that if your opponent is struggling on time it is both a legitimate strategy and good play to complicate a position to increase their chance of running out of time.

While you may believe that you specifically should not have to play well to win games you are unlikely to find much support for that position.
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