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zeirm
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Tournament Style Rules

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I have searched the forums and BGA site and can't find what I'm looking for so thought I'd ask here.
Is there a document or two on the BGA site that describes how each Tournament Style works?
And what the ramifications of making choices during the tournament are?
Such as when a person runs out of time and you get the option to skip them!
Are they out of the game, do the other players have to agree, or if just one of the players click that button they are ejected?

For example, I was just in a 4 player tournament game of Lucky Clovers, two people dropped out, one for time and one just quit, leaving two of us.
The game clearly said, all players will be winners, no bad karma points will be awarded if you quit.
But in a tournament how will it decide who the winner between those left?
Is it based on your remaining time, closest to winning, who quits last?
I had the most time, the other person had placed 2 more clovers than I had.
So if I'd quit as the game was saying I could do, would the other person win the round or would I or would both of us?
And if one of us won, is it based on who has the most time left of who is nearest to completing their card or something else?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Thank You for any info you can provide!
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zeirm
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Re: Tournament Style Rules

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So Lucky Clovers game just ended and interestingly enough 3 players were all declared 1st place winners and only the 4th player that got skipped or timed out got 4th.
Even the 3rd player who quit after the 4th player timed out got 1st.
So that raises a question, once someone is ejected or quits, does it matter if you continue playing the game to determine a winner.
From the results it would appear it doesn't, you might as well all quit, once someone is ejected for time or quits.
Any feedback on this would be helpful?

I have been in a tournament where the winner was chosen by the amount of thinking time you had!
Is this an option when setting up the game or just based on the type of game?

Results of the Lucky Clovers game:
GAME RESULT : END OF GAME (GAME RESULTS NEUTRALIZED)
Game result cancelled (Someone left this game before the end) :
The player who left (or was skipped) lost the game and got a ☯ penalty.
The other players won this game and get 56% of normal ELO points (because 56% of this game has been played before the incident).
Player 1 - 1st (finished playing)
Player 2 - 1st (finished playing and won)
Player 3 - 1st (quit after player 4)
Player 4 - 4th (ejected due to time)
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Re: Tournament Style Rules

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once someone quits the game (or gets kicked out), the game is over for purposes of the tournament. you can freely quit at that point as there is no need to finish the game for tournament purposes as all other players are considered winners.

if a game runs out of time (without anyone using the kick option) then the placement is determined by total time left. This has generally been considered a bad thing and better solutions such as all players with positive time are declared co-winners and everyone with negative is a loser (ranked by how much negative)
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Re: Tournament Style Rules

Post by compte obelète »

sprockitz wrote: 26 April 2021, 22:39 if a game runs out of time (without anyone using the kick option) then the placement is determined by total time left. This has generally been considered a bad thing and better solutions such as all players with positive time are declared co-winners and everyone with negative is a loser (ranked by how much negative)
Yeah, but in some games, that one could be flawed, because of elimination or getting 1st place in RMGT. So my solution here is excluding the finished players and do the calculations for only the ones that they could still playing.
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