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Would a triple mode be possible or desirable

Posted: 29 May 2021, 20:26
by RobertBr
I've yet to finish a full Main Event game in Duel mode. One failed due to a bug earlier this year, another one was halted by a concession (a useful note to anyone if you concede the first leg of a Duel the computer ends the match and you don't play a second leg :? so do play out your final turns). However, I do wonder both about the feasibility and desirability of a Triple system.

Here is how a Triple match would work. Three players (1 to 3) would play three successive games, with the following arrangement:
1: Axis, 2: Western, 3: Soviet
1: Soviet, 2: Axis, 3: Western
1: Western, 2: Soviet, 3: Axis
So each player would get a chance to play the Axis and each player would get a chance to play each of the powers (you can sort of do this by setting up three tables with each player hosting one of the tables and setting themselves as the Axis but you do not guarantee how the Western/Soviet faction falls).

Obviously the question of whether it is possible is directed almost entirely at Lunalol - and I already suspect the answer is that if it is it would be too much work to implement.

But I also wonder if it would be desirable. If the mode kicked off all of the games at the same time and they ran simultaneously then I suppose it would solve the downtime problem - you would be guaranteed to have at least one game where you were active in the opening. I'm not sure what you would use as a tie-breaker (NW works when Germany wins and for the Western player [for whom its effectively a track of casualties] but not so well for the Soviets where the NW is greatly increased by collapsing at some point during the game).

Re: Would a triple mode be possible or desirable

Posted: 29 May 2021, 23:59
by Lord Vasta
I haven't noticed this before. The Allied factions cannot be assigned to a specific player?

Re: Would a triple mode be possible or desirable

Posted: 30 May 2021, 00:19
by Lunalol
Obviously the question of whether it is possible is directed almost entirely at Lunalol - and I already suspect the answer is that if it is it would be too much work to implement.
In fact, triple mode is already implemented but not activated.
I don't really know if it's a good idea or not (very very long duel).
Lord Vasta wrote: 29 May 2021, 23:59 I haven't noticed this before. The Allied factions cannot be assigned to a specific player?
If some wants that players can choice between Western/Soviet faction, it can be requested as a feature.

Re: Would a triple mode be possible or desirable

Posted: 30 May 2021, 08:42
by RobertBr
Lunalol wrote: 30 May 2021, 00:19
In fact, triple mode is already implemented but not activated.
I don't really know if it's a good idea or not (very very long duel).
I suppose it would depend on the implementation. If the games were played in parallel it would not be much longer than a standard game, but in sequence :shock:

Re: Would a triple mode be possible or desirable

Posted: 30 May 2021, 10:00
by Lunalol
Parallel is impossible to implement, players must manually create three games.

Re: Would a triple mode be possible or desirable

Posted: 31 May 2021, 23:37
by RobertBr
Okay, a little bit of interest, so here is my idea of how three players could set this up manually given the current system.

Each player creates a table with themselves as the Axis power, with the Main Event 39-?, setting:

Game Speed: 'Turn-based: 1 move per day'
Factions: 'Table Administrator will play Axis faction'
Setting the Stage: 'Wide Open'
Unit Setup: 'Free Setup'

You can then invite the two opponents under where the players are listed. Note that you can invite people without opening the table and can then discuss in table chat, so everybody can check settings, and make sure all three tables are set up properly before you launch.