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Cannot air rebase in malta?
Posted: 23 June 2021, 02:36
by Beginetienne
Hi ! I am doing an air rebase of RAF 1 from tunis to malta. However I get "no supply line" error in red, so I cannot rebase.
I don't remember that air rebase required a supply line ? I've checked the rules and could not find such restriction.
If this is a bug I will file one.
Thanks!
Re: Cannot air rebase in malta?
Posted: 23 June 2021, 07:47
by RobertBr
The rules require that any rebasing action be to a location that is on a transport line and in supply. That means for islands, like Malta, Gibralta, etc., that there needs to be a transport with at least 1 sortie at the location, even if you do not intend to use the sortie.
Re: Cannot air rebase in malta?
Posted: 23 June 2021, 09:22
by Lunalol
4.2.2 Air Movement (page 9)
Important: Air movement must end in a Map Box, in a friendly city, or in a hex containing a Transport Line and no enemy unit or enemy marker. In addition, a supply line (7.4) must be able to be traced from the ending location to a Supply Source for the unit. If tracing across a Sea Zone, the trace cannot be intercepted, and the convoy used is not activated. Just confirm that a valid supply line can be traced. This requirement limits movement ending behind enemy lines.
@RobertBr: when checking supply line, it needs a convoy
but "at least 1 sortie" is not checked.
Re: Cannot air rebase in malta?
Posted: 23 June 2021, 11:35
by Beginetienne
Thanks for checking the rules for me
Re: Cannot air rebase in malta?
Posted: 23 June 2021, 12:18
by RobertBr
Lunalol wrote: ↑23 June 2021, 09:22
@RobertBr: when checking supply line, it needs a convoy
but "at least 1 sortie" is not checked.
That's odd, I am sure I have tried to do this on Rhodes and the system was pretty insistent there needed to be a sortie on the convoy.
Re: Cannot air rebase in malta?
Posted: 25 June 2021, 14:13
by Lord Vasta
RobertBr wrote: ↑23 June 2021, 12:18
Lunalol wrote: ↑23 June 2021, 09:22
@RobertBr: when checking supply line, it needs a convoy
but "at least 1 sortie" is not checked.
That's odd, I am sure I have tried to do this on Rhodes and the system was pretty insistent there needed to be a sortie on the convoy.
If that is the case, it is a bug. No sortie is required.
Re: Cannot air rebase in malta?
Posted: 25 June 2021, 16:47
by Lunalol
So, it's a bug, I must change that.
Re: Cannot air rebase in malta?
Posted: 26 June 2021, 11:26
by Lord Vasta
Lunalol wrote: ↑25 June 2021, 16:47
So, it's a bug, I must change that.
Merci for continuing to keep USE working and getting better.
Sal
Re: Cannot air rebase in malta?
Posted: 03 August 2021, 22:11
by Dren608
Sal doesn't the definition of Supply require you be "able" to trace supply?
That would require a Convoy that would be used to have at least on unused Sortie. Otherwise it can not be used for supply.
My other FTF and Vassal games we have always played that way.
The Rules indicate a valid supply route so a Convoy with 6 sorties couldn't be considered a Valid supply route could it?
Re: Cannot air rebase in malta?
Posted: 05 August 2021, 19:14
by Lord Vasta
Dren608 wrote: ↑03 August 2021, 22:11
Sal doesn't the definition of Supply require you be "able" to trace supply?
That would require a Convoy that would be used to have at least on unused Sortie. Otherwise it can not be used for supply.
My other FTF and Vassal games we have always played that way.
The Rules indicate a valid supply route so a Convoy with 6 sorties couldn't be considered a Valid supply route could it?
The intent of the rule is a supply line path is able to be traced (e.g. the UK cannot move an air unit to Malta if both ends of the Med are cut off). A convoy needs to be present, but its number of sorties does not matter. It's what I was hoping to get across by the rule stating "the convoy used is not activated". Since there is no activation, there is no need to have an unused Sortie.