Two different KARMA systems are needed

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stefko007
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Two different KARMA systems are needed

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Hello everybody,

Karma as it is currently says only about very bad behavior, reckless players but in gives no guidance to you if the player joining your game actually finishes it. Therefore, following idea about karma change to:
1. Turn-based karma
2. Real-time karma


Reason 1: Turn based and real time games require very different engagement
Real-time players are usually those who come to BGA for one-two hours, play couple of games and leave for the whole rest of the day.
Very good turn-based players are such that can play multiple moves during the whole day. They are either all the time around a computer or are free to use mobile phone all the time.
Current karma mixes these two together saying not much about how the player will play in these very different types of games.

Reason 2: Karma penalizations can be easily cheated
It's no problem to see players that play 1000 games in 90 days and have run out of time in 120 games and kicked/abandoned 50 while still keeping 100% karma. Why?
Because, you get the same karma bonifications for finishing a real-time game of 7 minutes with one opponent and for finishing a turn-based game of 30 days with 6 opponents. Both are +1 karma for not running out of time.
The same goes for penalties ruining a 7 minute game with one opponent and ruining a 30 day game with 6 opponents -10 karma. And that only if you get kicked.
Getting -20 karma can be fixed within 2,5 hours! That is fair if you ruin a 7 minute game, if you ruin a 30 day game, that's is not a fair penalty.

What this leads to is that karma can tell you if somebody is an extremely reckless player. But you still get 100% karma players that timeout/leave/ruin every fourth game. So, I mean if there is no capacity to address reason 2, certainly it is easy to address reason 1. BGA has logs on all the games, simply split the karma score based on what was a RTG/TBG and that's a huge step forward already.
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