Missing report option

[Ba3henov]

If at least one player at a table does not wish to abandon, it is against the rules to leave or force an abandon on some way. In some cooperative games like Hanabi, players purposely lose the game on the spot when another refuses to abandon. The threat of that is basically a way to force an abandon. When reporting these players, there is no fitting option for that behavior, and I'm stuck with only the option to give a red thumb and nothing else. Can we please have a way to report this to get a moderator to look at? It's clearly a violation of the code of conduct.

[Blacktango]

There are several ways to deal with these bad players :

- try to talk to them and explain that you think this attitude is very bad, and much worse than refusing to abandon.
- write a comment on their profile to inform everyone who visits that profile, that this player should be avoided
- join groups of players matching your way of playing (ex: Hanabi NO abandon players)
- give them a private red thumb: you will never see them again (you won't see the tables they join, and they won't be able to join yours)
- give them a public red thumb: same thing + it will affect the player's karma (maybe more than one public red thumb at the same time is needed to be significant)
- use the report button on their profile: I don't remember how it looks like, since I might use it only once (for racism or such thing), but this is the only way to get moderators in the loop, since the previous ways are automated or just handled between players themselves

[aesche]

Definitely needs to be added. There is an according penalty and standard answer distributed by moderators, so no reason why this option should not be offered directly in the reporting menu. Currently need to go through „misbehaved in chat“, which not always is possible.

[yrrepnadohr]

There are several ways to deal with these bad players :

- try to talk to them and explain that you think this attitude is very bad, and much worse than refusing to abandon.
- write a comment on their profile to inform everyone who visits that profile, that this player should be avoided
- join groups of players matching your way of playing (ex: Hanabi NO abandon players)
- give them a private red thumb: you will never see them again (you won't see the tables they join, and they won't be able to join yours)
- give them a public red thumb: same thing + it will affect the player's karma (maybe more than one public red thumb at the same time is needed to be significant)
- use the report button on their profile: I don't remember how it looks like, since I might use it only once (for racism or such thing), but this is the only way to get moderators in the loop, since the previous ways are automated or just handled between players themselves

I have two questions to this
Presumely, I have give one player (or more players) a red thumb some while ago (for what reason ever)

- can I see a list which all players I have given a red thumb ?
- can I change a red thumb to a green thumb again ?

[Blacktango]

There is no list of red/green thumbs you have given or received

You can cancel a thumb from a player's profile, but it's not very easy because you can't list them... : /

Now, when I give a red thumb to a player, I also write a personal note about them, with the reason and the date I gave it.
Then I can give them another chance, like 1 year later.

[yrrepnadohr]

There is no list of red/green thumbs you have given or received

You can cancel a thumb from a player's profile, but it's not very easy because you can't list them... : /

Now, when I give a red thumb to a player, I also write a personal note about them, with the reason and the date I gave it.
Then I can give them another chance, like 1 year later.

OK, thanks for the info.

[pjt33]

There is no list of red/green thumbs you have given or received

That's not quite true. There's no nice UI for them, and I don't know how to get a list of green thumbs given, but if you use your browser's "View Source" on this page and search for

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red_thumbs_given

you can get a list of player IDs. URL hacking of the profile page lets you see which players they are.

[goldlyn]

There are several ways to deal with these bad players :

- try to talk to them and explain that you think this attitude is very bad, and much worse than refusing to abandon.
- write a comment on their profile to inform everyone who visits that profile, that this player should be avoided
- join groups of players matching your way of playing (ex: Hanabi NO abandon players)
- give them a private red thumb: you will never see them again (you won't see the tables they join, and they won't be able to join yours)
- give them a public red thumb: same thing + it will affect the player's karma (maybe more than one public red thumb at the same time is needed to be significant)
- use the report button on their profile: I don't remember how it looks like, since I might use it only once (for racism or such thing), but this is the only way to get moderators in the loop, since the previous ways are automated or just handled between players themselves

question: what is difference between private and public red thumb? When I click red thumb on player's profile, is that public? Is the note I write on his profile public or can only I see it? TIA

[Blacktango]

you can get a list of player IDs. URL hacking of the profile page lets you see which players they are.

Oh, interesting!

Then we can list the URLS of the profile pages of the players we gave a red thumb to, by pasting this into the browser console:

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alert(
Object.getOwnPropertyNames(globalUserInfos['red_thumbs_given'])
.map(id => `\r\nhttps://boardgamearena.com/player?id=${id}`)
);

And this is the same for the players I received a red thumb:

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alert(
Object.getOwnPropertyNames(globalUserInfos['red_thumbs_taken'])
.map(id => `\r\nhttps://boardgamearena.com/player?id=${id}`)
);

[Blacktango]

question: what is difference between private and public red thumb? When I click red thumb on player's profile, is that public? Is the note I write on his profile public or can only I see it? TIA

The public red thumb will affect the player's karma.
Since the karma is public information, it means that you advise everyone not to play with this player.

The private red thumb is for you only.
You can give it for any reason. For example, you don't like to play with this player because they are inexperienced.
This is not a good reason to tell everyone not to play with him.

In both cases, you will not see the tables this player has joined, and they won't see yours.

The notes are private, so only you can read it.
(You can also write public comments to their profile, in the "Recent activity" section).