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Resignation in backgammon

Posted: 03 November 2024, 20:35
by XpertDBA
Hi all,

I was losing large in backgammon, and so to save time I resigned a backgammon since the position was lost. The opponent sat there and declined my forfeit at least 60 times. Is there any way to report this kind of garbage?

Re: Resignation in backgammon

Posted: 03 November 2024, 21:22
by Remkar
XpertDBA wrote: 03 November 2024, 20:35 Hi all,

I was losing large in backgammon, and so to save time I resigned a backgammon since the position was lost. The opponent sat there and declined my forfeit at least 60 times. Is there any way to report this kind of garbage?
There is definitely not a way to report it because it is completely within the rules of the game/site to refuse a forfeit offer.

But, I have some questions that may help figure out where to go with this (and what the real issue is).

How many points was the match being played to?
What was the current score?
Were you offering a regular point forfeit? Or a gammon? Or a backgammon?
Was conceding through the BGA menu option a possibility? (I.e., was the game 50+% over?)
Did you try talking to the other player to see why they didn't want to accept the forfeit?

Re: Resignation in backgammon

Posted: 04 November 2024, 07:48
by euklid314
XpertDBA wrote: 03 November 2024, 20:35 Hi all,

I was losing large in backgammon, and so to save time I resigned a backgammon since the position was lost. The opponent sat there and declined my forfeit at least 60 times. Is there any way to report this kind of garbage?
Your argument of wanting to save time is not really valid if you then offer a (single?) game resign at least 60 times for a time span of 15 minutes.

The match was for 3 points, your opponent was leading 2:1 and only had to move his 15 checkers off.

You could have resigned with the BGA functionality (hamburger menu) or resigned a gammon/backgammon with the white flag within Backgammon. Or you could have played on for 3 minutes instead of stalling the game for 15 minutes.

I do not know the reason of your opponent to decline (wanting to play to the bitter end, wanting to win 4:1 instead of 3:1, ...) and I do not understand your insisting on a forfeit. Mutually red thumb each other and move on!

Re: Resignation in backgammon

Posted: 04 November 2024, 09:20
by Jellby
Remkar wrote: 03 November 2024, 21:22 There is definitely not a way to report it because it is completely within the rules of the game/site to refuse a forfeit offer.
It is also within the rules to forfeit 60 times, but I'd consider it reportable ;)

Re: Resignation in backgammon

Posted: 04 November 2024, 12:57
by Remkar
Jellby wrote: 04 November 2024, 09:20
Remkar wrote: 03 November 2024, 21:22 There is definitely not a way to report it because it is completely within the rules of the game/site to refuse a forfeit offer.
It is also within the rules to forfeit 60 times, but I'd consider it reportable ;)
😂 Fair point!

Re: Resignation in backgammon

Posted: 04 November 2024, 15:56
by euklid314
I looked at the game.

In defense of the OP: He offered the resignation of a backgammon, i.e. 3 points - the absolute maximum possible.
The game should have automatically accepted the offer without waiting for the opponent to accept.

Offering it 101 times within 15 minutes is excessive, though. :-)

Re: Resignation in backgammon

Posted: 04 November 2024, 22:09
by bckgmn
euklid314 wrote: 04 November 2024, 15:56 I looked at the game.

In defense of the OP: He offered the resignation of a backgammon, i.e. 3 points - the absolute maximum possible.
The game should have automatically accepted the offer without waiting for the opponent to accept.

Offering it 101 times within 15 minutes is excessive, though. :-)
That's precisely what came to my mind at first.
I also had people insisting on conceding point when I have yet secured a gammon and have to decline the conceding with one point 10 times while I explain the opponent the reason and another 10 times once he got the explanation which he obviously didn't need to try so hard.

It was a little annoying but definitely much more for him as he kept trying so hard, lol.
Still, it wasn't as bad as people taking ages to play at each roll which makes me think it shouldn't be reported. When I suspect unsportsmanlike conduct, I take time to checking players game data (number of games played, last time he played, average length of games...) and this taken into account, I can tell if it's a one time event that extend time to play or pure soar loser going in foul play. It's terrible and there is so many of them (I don't give them much esteem considering that they decide to waste their own time before yours and when they are losing thinking it's upsetting ! get a life people and remember it's a game, a noble fight where playing a good player is an opportunity not a pain). Those players must be reported and mostly the timer should be adapted to international rules. (Timer is set for the total length of the game and doesn't reload. You do get an extra 15 seconds at each roll which doesn't add to your timer if not used at previous roll).