Money Sponsors- Discussion

[rrosulek]

Hi All,

I really feel that overall Marine Worlds was a fantastic expansion. I dont think its quite as balanced as the original was, but it feels fun and the new synergies can feel awesome. I must admit thought Money Sponsors is completely ruining it for me. I am by no means stating that it is unbeatable, that would be an overreach. However it makes the game way less fun due to how easy it is to amass money for one player. I really feel that it should be removed from the game or at least add an option to do so (Much like wingspan allows you to remove overpowered birds). What is everyones thought on this? If I see it I have to pick it and I have been on both sides. Its just too powerful to give to someone else.

[BlueSwan]

Well, yes, I'd say that it is the general consensus that it in most cases is the strongest of the new action cards. But there are ways to play against it. Like breaking heavily so that money becomes less of an issue. But ALL the new sponsor cards are strong. "Marketing sponsors" can be really strong against money sponsors as it allows for you to constantly break and play sponsors at the same time (when upgraded, of course). "Sunbathing sponsors" upgraded also lets you discard a card for 4 money, so that can also often keep up in income. "Trading sponsors" to a lesser degree perhaps, but still and the upgraded ability to trade for rep can also be really good.

But overall, I agree. Money sponsors could use a nerf. The 5 extra money when upgraded is just too much. The ability to do sponsors 1 for 7 money can also be utterly ridiculous in certain situations. Stalling against money sponsors is a death sentence.

[Monkeyunit]

I think this was an issue at the start but the player base has adapted quite well to playing against it.
I almost feel the Marketing sponsor is as strong as money sponsor.

Maybe there needs to be a way for all players to use the same actions cards, just like we were able to play on the same board.

Problem is BGA only uses official variant endorsed by the publishers, so In this case I think Feuerland spiel is the one you should ask.

[KeithHendricks]

I have noticed that some other Sponsors cards also have good abilities, once you stop to think about them—but only on the red, upgraded side.

For instance, the sponsor that lets you break for cash, then discard a card to play a sponsor for cash. Note that you can do this action on any strength, which means you can play a lot of sponsors very quickly, as long as you have the sponsors to play, and cards to discard, because breaking for cash gives you the cash you need to play them. You could get four sponsors out in four turns, and if you have tile-laying sponsors that let you unlock map bonus card draws (or sponsors on Hollywood Hills), you could even keep this going for longer. All the other sponsors cards require you to have sponsors at a certain strength to play your sponsors, which is only manipulable with Boost, Clever, and x tokens. This card gets you a workaround to get your sponsors out as soon as you like. I have been enjoying this card and trying to draft it when I can. I admit it isn’t as straightforward as the other sponsor, but I believe it has some untapped potential and we may hear forum complaints about it before too long.