MattiaDixon wrote: ↑16 September 2026, 18:46
Hi everyone, I noticed that in elite rank you gain or lose points based on the ELO of the opponent, rather than their arena ranking, isn't it a little unfair? I have around 300 ELO at the moment and winning against a player who has around 100 gives me 6 points, while losing makes me drop of around 30. Shouldn't the game give and take points based on your arena rank instead of ELO? Otherwise it would be better for me to play some non arena games, drop to 100 ELO and then rank again, so I can gain way more points than now.
Am I the only having a "problem" with this?
This would be false. The regular rating you gain/lose is based on each player's regular rating. The Arena score is affected by each player's Arena score. So your 300 regular rating, gaining 6 points for a win sounds like you beat a lower rated opponent. That said, your claim about losing 30 rating is nonsense, that doesn't exist. Regular rating's k factor is at 20 for accounts that got through their initial games. If you got 6 for beating them, you should have lost 14 for losing to them. Whatever you win for victory and whatever you lose for defeat should add up to 20 points. A 300 vs a 100 is high risk low reward for the 300 in order to cancel out the good odds they have.
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=915075001 https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=914889361 https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=908803632 As we can see, your +6s are vs low 200s at your current mid to higher 300s rating. The baseline for an even game is 10 points for winning and 10 points for losing, which you'd find in your games as a 300s vs close enough 300s.
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=908057055 As expected, when losing to such a 200, you lost 14 points.
As expected, no sign of these -30s you speak of, not for the regular rating examples you were using.
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=916067820 https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=915605815 Sure, in games like this you may have dropped over 30 Arena points, but that's Arena rating, not regular rating. Arena rating operates on a k factor of 40 for regular games if memory serves, not to mention the higher starting values. So that tends to lead to bigger numerical changes. In regular rating you lost 16 points. Which seems reasonable considering you lost as a 300s vs a 100s.
If you wreck your regular rating to 100 in non-Arena games, it won't help your Arena score at all. When you reenter Arena you'll still gain/lose the same Arena points as before; however, your regular rating will go up much easier because you'd be underrated. This will continue until you reach your proper rating, and you'll more or less be back where you left off in regular rating, assuming your game skills didn't change much over that period of time.
