Top right zone update

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Wreckage
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Re: Top right zone update

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Mazarin26 wrote: 17 December 2021, 07:25 3. When you click on the table icon, you need to go to your list of tables. Not open the side bar
I think this suggestion solves a lot of what people want. Just have the table icon link straight to the table list. No side panel needed to show tables.

Then on a player's table list page, make it easy to see who's turn it is on each game, and at a glance be able to see all games where it's your turn.
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Respublik
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Re: Top right zone update

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Beside this, my only other issue is that the way the sidebar is coded, it doesn't allow to open table(s) in another tab(right clicks are not supported on the web/long clicks on the phone). This is a serious blow for comfortable navigation when you are playing tournaments and/or turn-based games.
Respublik wrote: 16 December 2021, 16:35 What a great update, but please move the view all current tables button to the top, because using it on a mobile launches General messages instead due to the location overlapping.
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Cullich
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Re: Top right zone update

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Wreckage wrote: 17 December 2021, 09:45
Mazarin26 wrote: 17 December 2021, 07:25 3. When you click on the table icon, you need to go to your list of tables. Not open the side bar
I think this suggestion solves a lot of what people want. Just have the table icon link straight to the table list. No side panel needed to show tables
When I clicked on the table icon it took me to the first game on turn, not the side bar. Which was actually much worse because it took me quite some time to find that side bar, and only because I clicked my avatar just to see what was there, and drawn to it a bit by that unnecessary green circle.

But back to the point... this is definitely, for me at least, not a matter of getting used to things. That orange blob is difficult to see. I saw it, I got that the number indicated either games I had or ones on turn. But having the banner was so much more obvious and got me to my games list faster, and therefore to my turns faster. Adding extra clicks adds nothing. I get the page jumping around from the banner was a problem, but it seems that could be solved some other way.

I too do not need to see that I'm online.

I don't yet know whether the exclamation point for notifications will still be on my avatar or not because there haven't been any since I was last on. But if it only shows in the side panel, that's bad because I wouldn't even know that's there. I don't want to have to open the side panel every time I come on. The icons are not obvious. (Common icons change constantly and it's hard to keep up, and not all sites use the same ones, so it's a bad idea if you're assuming we know what they all mean.) Yes, it might be easier to message friends, but I rarely use that and don't care. I haven't experienced some of the other things yet.

And back to that idea about what will just take getting used to... well, first, people shouldn't have to get used to constant changes that are always going on. (And changes are constantly going on around here.) UNLESS the change is truly good and useful. And I don't think this is. Also, I already know I'm not fond of side panels in any way, so no, it's not just a matter of getting used to it. Sometimes there are things we know we don't like. And yes, people can get used to changes, but it doesn't make them "better" when people adapt; it just means they've adapted. Borg adapt too.
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Agreed with the others who've commented to say:
  • The "green" online icon on the profile keeps looking like a notification. I have now learnt to ignore it and never click on that again, though. Meanwhile I'm not sure what it would look like if I did have a notification. Fortunately there are no important notifications on this site, right?
  • Games in progress icon the number is less clear and harder to tell at a glance.The old Games in Progress banner was much better - it was larger, it was in plain text so more readable and rescaled better, it could handle numbers greater than 9, and so on.
A consistent iconography can be efficient once people get used to them - which is as good a reason as any not to change them around without very good reason, the old table icon was fine - but text making up words is also intuitive and can convey a lot of information quickly. As a web developer myself I'm very much not a fan of this modern trend for brochureware websites which look great in the boardroom but aren't actually as usable day-in-day-out, and a site like this which people use rather than visit shouldn't be following that trend.

(Or to summarise in the iconographic intuitive form - :!: :cry: :evil: :roll: )
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Thanks everyone for your feedback, it is appreciated.

When working on huge change like this, it is difficult not to miss something, and this is why we asked for this feedback.

As many of you reported this, I would like to confirm that there is an issue to notify clearly when it is your turn to play on a turn based game. We are working on a solution for this (among other other things you reported), so you can be assured it is going to be fixed.
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Re: Top right zone update

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Respublik wrote: 17 December 2021, 12:05 Beside this, my only other issue is that the way the sidebar is coded, it doesn't allow to open table(s) in another tab(right clicks are not supported on the web/long clicks on the phone). This is a serious blow for comfortable navigation when you are playing tournaments and/or turn-based games.
Respublik wrote: 16 December 2021, 16:35 What a great update, but please move the view all current tables button to the top, because using it on a mobile launches General messages instead due to the location overlapping.
This would be a big problem for me if true - but I don't have this issue. This is on Chrome on my laptop - I can right click the big blue button at the bottom "view all current tables" and the normal menu comes up that allows me to open in a new tab.
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Re: Top right zone update

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HI Sourisdudesert,
Thanks,really appreciate that people are working on it and we understand that it takes some time. I appreciate that you are making an effort to communicate with us.

Re: Clicking on the orange blob icon. I have not tested this properly, but I think the orange blob icon is sending me different places according to what browser I am in. Either that, or small screens on different devices mean you can misclick!

I agree with Cullich, just now in Firefox when I clicked on the orange icon it took me to the first game in the turn. But earlier in Apple/on a small screen it was taking me to the sidebar.

And in Firefox, clicking outside the panel closes the panel- But I agree with Scotjn1, that does not reliably happen in all browsers/devices.

I know that BGA does not claim to fully support Apple devices, but previously there were just a few games I played that I had to avoid playing on the ipad. If Its the whole game interface that does not work as well/in the same way its much more of a problem

( and having some games that don't work on some devices is a major reason you need to be able to go straight to the tables list. It is incredibly annoying for BGA to keep throwing you back to the " top" game when its a game you cannot play/see well on that device. You want to be able to at least play the turns you can easily play)
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Re: Top right zone update

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Please incorporate the option to go back to the old UI, it’s just much better and more intuitive
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A pop-up to point out the new interface would have helped. I had to message four people so far who didn't move yesterday because they didn't see the notification bar.
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Re: Top right zone update

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robinzig wrote: 17 December 2021, 13:39
Respublik wrote: 17 December 2021, 12:05 Beside this, my only other issue is that the way the sidebar is coded, it doesn't allow to open table(s) in another tab(right clicks are not supported on the web/long clicks on the phone). This is a serious blow for comfortable navigation when you are playing tournaments and/or turn-based games.
Respublik wrote: 16 December 2021, 16:35 What a great update, but please move the view all current tables button to the top, because using it on a mobile launches General messages instead due to the location overlapping.
This would be a big problem for me if true - but I don't have this issue. This is on Chrome on my laptop - I can right click the big blue button at the bottom "view all current tables" and the normal menu comes up that allows me to open in a new tab.
You can also click smaller blue View my profile button, but it isn't programmed for anything else, most importantly not for the tables.
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