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Hardin2000
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Re: Arena - 1 player is doing Monopoly on Arena Dice Hospital

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If he love the game he wouldn't play only arena lol. He didn't sign for any tournament.

The problem is that arena Dice Hospital arena is destroyed this season since is not a real arena. People don't compete against each other.
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Hardin2000 wrote: 23 February 2022, 04:13 If he love the game he wouldn't play only arena lol.
Why not? Some players aren't interested in tournaments, some haven't noticed they exist, some just want to get the best arena ranking and would lose time in tournaments where they won't increase there arena position
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Re: Arena - 1 player is doing Monopoly on Arena Dice Hospital

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qwertasdfg wrote: 22 February 2022, 16:14
nmego wrote: 22 February 2022, 08:05 Or if you're in a lower league than Elite you can just adjust your settings to not get matched with players in Elite
No. Please stop spreading that rumor. Souris has confirmed it doesn't work that way and they don't even want it that way.
This doesn't work anymore? I'm sure it has worked before in my experience, and haven't heard anything else about it, could you link Souris' post?
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Hardin2000 wrote: 23 February 2022, 04:13 If he love the game he wouldn't play only arena lol. He didn't sign for any tournament.

The problem is that arena Dice Hospital arena is destroyed this season since is not a real arena. People don't compete against each other.
Tournaments on bga aren't suitable for all players. I could start 50 Arena Dice Hospital games and play 1 move a day, but doing this in Tournaments is impossible, because you have a time limit you have to abide by. Also, Arena is just one button click, while tournaments require that a tournament to be actually hosted with desirable options.

But there are also other issues with Arena, and I would think that tournaments are better from a more competitive perspective.

I think instead of restricting that player who has done nothing wrong, it is better to work on the matchmaking system of Arena, particularly I think the previously-tried system of having set times where the games automatically start, is worth another try in my opinion (I think the main reason it failed is that it was riddled with bugs and had technical issues)
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Re: Arena - 1 player is doing Monopoly on Arena Dice Hospital

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nmego wrote: 23 February 2022, 12:25
qwertasdfg wrote: 22 February 2022, 16:14
nmego wrote: 22 February 2022, 08:05 Or if you're in a lower league than Elite you can just adjust your settings to not get matched with players in Elite
No. Please stop spreading that rumor. Souris has confirmed it doesn't work that way and they don't even want it that way.
This doesn't work anymore? I'm sure it has worked before in my experience, and haven't heard anything else about it, could you link Souris' post?
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Hardin2000 wrote: 23 February 2022, 04:13 If he love the game he wouldn't play only arena lol. He didn't sign for any tournament.

The problem is that arena Dice Hospital arena is destroyed this season since is not a real arena. People don't compete against each other.
Tournaments on bga aren't suitable for all players. I could start 50 Arena Dice Hospital games and play 1 move a day, but doing this in Tournaments is impossible, because you have a time limit you have to abide by. Also, Arena is just one button click, while tournaments require that a tournament to be actually hosted with desirable options.

But there are also other issues with Arena, and I would think that tournaments are better from a more competitive perspective.

I think instead of restricting that player who has done nothing wrong, it is better to work on the matchmaking system of Arena, particularly I think the previously-tried system of having set times where the games automatically start, is worth another try in my opinion (I think the main reason it failed is that it was riddled with bugs and had technical issues)
https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... 7&start=10

Yes, the buttons are there. They only work in the minus direction. Plus is just treated as a suggestion
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I confirm that the league restriction only works in the minus direction and not in the plus direction. However, it's the first time that someone stated that so clearly.

What you claim to be a confirmation by souris is not that, souris comment is about a different issue. The behavior of the restriction setting is clearly a bug and most likely not the intended way by the admins.
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Re: Arena - 1 player is doing Monopoly on Arena Dice Hospital

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nmego wrote: 23 February 2022, 12:25 I think instead of restricting that player who has done nothing wrong, it is better to work on the matchmaking system of Arena, particularly I think the previously-tried system of having set times where the games automatically start, is worth another try in my opinion (I think the main reason it failed is that it was riddled with bugs and had technical issues)
The only issue is the monopoly. I don't think monopoly helps Arena competition.

In start of the season i queued a few times for arena and i got 20-30 minutes queues and i complained. Now i queue and it says 50 minutes but it's usually 2 hours. And the reason i notice is people with lower Elo get him on games, loose every game and quit arena Dice Hospital. Because it's like on Real Life. When exists a Monopoly, most of people don't even try invest on that area.

The only way to prevent a monopoly is with rules to prevent it.
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Hardin2000 wrote: 23 February 2022, 04:13 If he love the game he wouldn't play only arena lol. He didn't sign for any tournament.
You do not get to decide how someone expresses their enjoyment of a game.
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Hardin2000 wrote: 23 February 2022, 17:56
The only issue is the monopoly. I don't think monopoly helps Arena competition.

In start of the season i queued a few times for arena and i got 20-30 minutes queues and i complained. Now i queue and it says 50 minutes but it's usually 2 hours. And the reason i notice is people with lower Elo get him on games, loose every game and quit arena Dice Hospital. Because it's like on Real Life. When exists a Monopoly, most of people don't even try invest on that area.

The only way to prevent a monopoly is with rules to prevent it.
Did you ever watch the South Park episode Make Love, Not Warcraft?
Someone should try that.
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I can't
voriki wrote: 24 February 2022, 07:49 Did you ever watch the South Park episode Make Love, Not Warcraft?
Someone should try that.
I can't get your point.

So basically some of you are happy with Arena monopoly by 1 player and think that is OK and good for Arena.

Wow Nice.
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Hardin2000 wrote: 23 February 2022, 17:56 The only issue is the monopoly. I don't think monopoly helps Arena competition.

In start of the season i queued a few times for arena and i got 20-30 minutes queues and i complained. Now i queue and it says 50 minutes but it's usually 2 hours. And the reason i notice is people with lower Elo get him on games, loose every game and quit arena Dice Hospital. Because it's like on Real Life. When exists a Monopoly, most of people don't even try invest on that area.

The only way to prevent a monopoly is with rules to prevent it.
Normally I don't quibble over petty semantics, but your use of 'monopoly' is completely wrong in this case. This is not an economic investment.
Monopoly heavily impacts daily life and thus regulated by antitrust laws, but is this really THAT serious?
Players are free to play or leave. They can switch to normal/training mode or play other games anytime.
Of course I know current Arena matchmaking is far from optimal, but still there is no reason to ban a highly active expert player from Arena.
Besides, even if you redthumb someone you'll meet another high-ranking player eventually.
What is the meaning of this after all? Arena is for competition, not for 50-50 matchmakings.

I'd rather try working on improvements of Arena matchmaking, as nmego suggested.
Current matchmaking cannot filter EAS difference within Elite league and it really is a pain.
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