Undo broken? Won't let me re-pick food.

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Cos-
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Undo broken? Won't let me re-pick food.

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At table https://boardgamearena.com/10/wingspan?table=385552818 on the second to last turn (round 4, 4/5), I made a simple error in picking the wrong item out of the feeder, wanted to undo and pick a different one ... and there was no way to do it. It was on the Anna's hummingbird, and it seems to be a bug, so I filed this bug: https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=90661

Has anyone else encountered this?

I was activating the forest, and reached my hummingbird. I chose to let the next player draw first, so that I would be the last to draw food. When it came to my turn to draw food, there was only one die in the feeder, so I rerolled, and got a full feeder. Looked at my options, with the goal of playing three wetland birds on the final turn: I had a great egret and great blue heron, both of which let you play another wetland bird, so my goal was to play three wetland birds on the final turn and complete the "wetland scientist" goal for 7 points. With the yellow-rumped warbler, I could draw the trumpeter swan that was there on the tray. In the feeder were two grains, and I just needed one grain to have enough food to play all three of those birds.

Instead, I mistakenly picked the fish, because I momentarily forgot which food I didn't have enough of. I needed several fish, but I actually had enough fish, it was grain I needed one more of. When I realized this, it was too late - there was no undo option!

Normally when you've just picked something from the feeder and haven't re-rolled since you did that, you have a "reset food" or "undo" option of some sort, and you can pick another food. For some reason, this didn't happen, and I wonder if it is always missing when using the hummingbird.

Of course I understand that if I rerolled after I picked the wrong food, or if I let the next player pick their food, that would be too late. But I was the last player on the hummingbird, and I rerolled _before_ I picked a food. It should have let me correct my mistake.
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Re: Undo broken? Won't let me re-pick food.

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Today I ran into another odd behavior of the undo/confirm logic, also involving a hummingbird, though this one didn't make any difference for the game. Still, since it also involved a hummingbird, I wonder if it's related somehow, so wanted to describe it.

https://boardgamearena.com/6/wingspan?table=395483678

In the forest I have a Cooper's hawk, and Anna's hummingbird. I activated the forest, took my food, and that activated the hummingbird first. I took food first, then had to wait for everyone else to take food, as usual. When they all did so, it was my turn again, and the Cooper's hawk was activated. I clicked to hunt, it drew a card from the deck and successfully hunted it, the action cube moved to the far left of the forest... and then the game gave me the option to "confirm" or undo!

Usually, when the last thing that happened is irreversible - such as a hunt - there's no option to confirm. Your turn just ends, because there's no longer anything you can choose to undo or re-do once you've seen how the hunt went. So why did it require me to click "confirm" this time?
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Re: Undo broken? Won't let me re-pick food.

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Just as a temporary fix for this, Id run into this a while ago , and hitting f5 and refreshing worked.
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Re: Undo broken? Won't let me re-pick food.

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Thank you for the detailed reports. There are indeed two bugs, which will be fixed in the next update.

I wasn't able to reproduce the issue with the client side confirm state not appearing, but the next version will simplify the confirm step user preference and make sure the confirm step for the birdfeeder always occurs.

Bug 1: The game logic sets an undo save point right after "all players may take food from the bird feeder" actions, but this does not take into account this specific case, where the active player is the last to take a die. This will be updated to match what one would expect from an undo function. No new information is revealed and no other players take an action after the reroll, so the undo button will appear on your next action and take you back to before you select a die.

Bug 2: There is a bug previously reported here (https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=73943) where the undo save point is mistakenly "validated" if a player chooses not to use a Pink power. Clicking undo would have taken you right to _after_ the card was drawn from the deck, specifically to the confirm state before other players may take Once Between Turns actions.
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Re: Undo broken? Won't let me re-pick food.

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Thanks for the detail. Bug 1 looks like exactly what I encountered.

And it sounds like the second situation I described actually did not relate to the hummingbird at all, it was just a coincidence that I had the hummingbird activated in the same turn; Bug 2 is just about pink powers in general.

I don't know what "the issue with the client side confirm state not appearing" is - you said you couldn't reproduce it, but it also doesn't sound like an issue I described, so maybe I don't know what you mean by that one. But it'll be nice to have bugs 1 & 2 fixed. Do you know approximately when the next update is likely to happen?
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