Banlist Discussion!

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Swathe
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Re: Banlist Discussion!

Post by Swathe »

Checked this thread for the first time in a while and thought I may as well chip in.

I believe that Guest Room was banned without ever being given a real fair shake. Sure, the card is powerful, but it was banned before any stats came out for the card itself and it stacks up with cards like Lover (that are not banned). In my opinion, this card should be unbanned.

Additionally, I am in favor of unbanning Informant. The card has a legitimate tradeoff where you're basically stuck having to spend any clay that you obtain during the same round that you took it in order to benefit from said card, but as Siveure was saying the Draft 10 community in this game appears to be strongly against this and I won't die on a hill for a card that I think is fine as the top-range of power you can come across in your drafts.

I am definitely against unbanning both Pulverizer Plow and Garden Designer. Garden Designer is a card that you can easily manufacture into giving you an obscene amount of points so long as you have any way of producing food, which is very easy to do in most revised games. Even at its worst you can basically just convert your animals into more points than they are normally worth so long as you have a cookery. Pulverizer plow is a card that completely destroys the clay economy; like Siveure was saying, sometimes this doesn't matter, however, if any player needs clay for their strategy to work their game is often ruined.
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Aspheric
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Re: Banlist Discussion!

Post by Aspheric »

Lots of good discussion on here. My opinion is to agree with Swathe on all points. I would unban Informant. The card is not annoying, it is strong but no stronger than other A-tier occs (Forest Reviewer, Lover, Childless, Pavior, Basket Carrier etc) so I'm not sure why it was this one that got singled out. Same logic for guest room, strong but not annoying and other stronger A-tier minors not banned.
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karastarbuck
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Re: Banlist Discussion!

Post by karastarbuck »

What options preferences are selected to ban overpowered cards like big country? I'm only seeing a 'ban weak cards' option. Thanks in advance
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cranesflyhigh
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Re: Banlist Discussion!

Post by cranesflyhigh »

karastarbuck wrote: 24 August 2025, 04:23 What options preferences are selected to ban overpowered cards like big country? I'm only seeing a 'ban weak cards' option. Thanks in advance
It is the 'competitive level' tab: competitive means the strong banlist is included.
wisogman
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Re: Banlist Discussion!

Post by wisogman »

Without having read all 32 pages of this discussion or having any insights into the programming of BGA, but can Illusionist please be banned just for annoyance reasons? Everybody having to refresh the page constantly for it to work ist somewhat diminishing the playing experience and it's not like it is otherwise some super fun card.
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alexwjb
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Re: Banlist Discussion!

Post by alexwjb »

I am, as we speak, in yet another game that has been totally and completely destroyed by a weak player first picking Lodger.

I am desperate to ban it. Desperate.

We should not have cards that ruin other people's games like this. Why does it exist???
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BogTheClub
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Re: Banlist Discussion!

Post by BogTheClub »

To keep Alex happy

Yes - let's kill the lodger.
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alexwjb
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Post by alexwjb »

In the interests of balance, I should add that it turns out my game was not "completely destroyed" and I scraped a win.

But I still hate Lodger.
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SiegeFiend
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Post by SiegeFiend »

I really have no love for Lodger and if it is ruining people's games , (apparently frequently for Alex) would not at all be sad to see the card go. Also I think the competitive environment for the game is generally for the better if we ban these polarizing cards that are either complete garbage or extremely strong and nowhere in between.
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torvaldur_makan
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Re: Banlist Discussion!

Post by torvaldur_makan »

alexwjb wrote: 28 August 2025, 21:45 I am, as we speak, in yet another game that has been totally and completely destroyed by a weak player first picking Lodger.

I am desperate to ban it. Desperate.

We should not have cards that ruin other people's games like this. Why does it exist???
How are games destroyed by Lodger? I am curious as I’ve never seen it happen.
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