bga forest shuffle seems to have a winning-loosing mechanism

[Takeda007]

BGA Forest Shuffle seems to have a mechanism that lets you win a lot and then lose a lot, which is kind of boring actually (I’ve been through this kind of win–loss cycle many times). If you’re on a winning streak, you’ll get something like seven deer in a game. But if you’re on a losing streak, all you get are cards you don’t need, and on top of that, the game ends quite quickly (for example, it can end while there are still about 50 cards left). I know I might sound like a sore loser, but even when I’m on a winning streak, I feel sorry for the other player, who plays strategically smart but still ends up drawing lots of stuff they don’t need.

After a 30-win streak (no flex), I finally lost to a 37% win rate player, because I kept drawing one bad card after another. I know how to turn weak cards to my advantage, but when every card you see is bad, there’s simply no way to recover.

There seems to be roughly a 35% randomness factor when two players of similar skill face each other. When there’s a large gap in skill, however, the stronger player’s win probability can rise to around 90% or more. Losing several games in a row despite a big skill gap is therefore a statistical anomaly, unlikely, but still possible and something you just have to accept.

I hope the mechanism you’re referring to isn’t actually real. Even though I’ve experienced situations like this two or three times, my understanding of the game suggests it’s simply bad luck, not a built-in punishment system.

Off topic: the worst part of losing is complaining to your opponent about how lucky they were. Just say gg, accept the loss, and move on.

[dansimon44]

BGA Forest Shuffle seems to have a mechanism that lets you win a lot and then lose a lot, which is kind of boring actually (I’ve been through this kind of win–loss cycle many times). If you’re on a winning streak, you’ll get something like seven deer in a game. But if you’re on a losing streak, all you get are cards you don’t need, and on top of that, the game ends quite quickly (for example, it can end while there are still about 50 cards left). I know I might sound like a sore loser, but even when I’m on a winning streak, I feel sorry for the other player, who plays strategically smart but still ends up drawing lots of stuff they don’t need.

Yes it’s true. There is an ai bot developed in a secret lab buried deep beneath BoardGameArena global HQ that targets anyone who ticks them off. It intercedes with all die rolls, deck draws, shuffles, etc. to screw with you at the optimally worst time.

[loungelizard24]

I’ve never played a single deer in an online game before. And I’ve only won 5 online games against deer only players and I’ve played over 200 online games!

So how do you think I feel? It’s not just losing that bothers me, it’s Losing by over 100 points sometimes losing by over 200 points. The deer players are so toxic! When they realize their opponent is intentionally not playing deer they still snatch up the mole and beech martin, and intentionally discard the cards that help the other player when the forest clearing is nearly full. They don’t beat you up, they stab you over and over and add salt to your open wounds until you either play deer like them or give the game up entirely!

Oh boo hoo you play deer because deer are overpowered, and after 10th winning streak your on your 10th losing streak. Because your opponents are also playing deer.

I refuse to play deer. It’s not much of a game if we all have to play the same strategy instead order to win. Because of this I now rarely play Forest shuffle online and have switched over to Forest shuffle dartmoor. The card draw is less lucky and the scoring is way more balanced.

[Ceaseless]

I’ve never played a single deer in an online game before. And I’ve only won 5 online games against deer only players and I’ve played over 200 online games!

So how do you think I feel? It’s not just losing that bothers me, it’s Losing by over 100 points sometimes losing by over 200 points. The deer players are so toxic! When they realize their opponent is intentionally not playing deer they still snatch up the mole and beech martin, and intentionally discard the cards that help the other player when the forest clearing is nearly full. They don’t beat you up, they stab you over and over and add salt to your open wounds until you either play deer like them or give the game up entirely!

Oh boo hoo you play deer because deer are overpowered, and after 10th winning streak your on your 10th losing streak. Because your opponents are also playing deer.

I refuse to play deer. It’s not much of a game if we all have to play the same strategy instead order to win. Because of this I now rarely play Forest shuffle online and have switched over to Forest shuffle dartmoor. The card draw is less lucky and the scoring is way more balanced.

I'm going to go with there's no way this post is meant for this thread.

[mchiesa]

I experienced that not only in FS, but also in other games.

[Ceaseless]

I experienced that not only in FS, but also in other games.

[BarnardsStar]

I’ve also experienced it on other sites. I’ve even experienced it in real life!

[Daddistracted]

Many will say it is just luck, but I bet they have a good win ratio. My Issue is that while I understand that luck plays a part, and other players are skilled enough to play cards, maximising effects, etc. I almost without fail will see almost no good cards, and when looking at the other forest (only really look at the end of the game), they seemingly have all of the deer or birds or beech Marten, or butterflies with all the multipliers. always a winning combination to score over 400 points, and I saw none of the cards come through me or the clearing. And without fail, they are all highly ranked players.

It is like there are a few who have figured out how to check the deck or hack the randomness or something. Also, when the rules say Play a Bat, or Play a card with a bat symbol (Insert Bird/insect etc), it actually means that. The Game seems to think it only ever means to play the actual animal/type, but the wording differs for a reason.

[BarnardsStar]

Many will say it is just luck, but I bet they have a good win ratio. My Issue is that while I understand that luck plays a part, and other players are skilled enough to play cards, maximising effects, etc. I almost without fail will see almost no good cards, and when looking at the other forest (only really look at the end of the game), they seemingly have all of the deer or birds or beech Marten, or butterflies with all the multipliers. always a winning combination to score over 400 points, and I saw none of the cards come through me or the clearing. And without fail, they are all highly ranked players.

Do you mean like this game where you drew a deer from the deck and one from the clearing? Or how about this one where on turn 17 a deer was added to the clearing but your hand was full and you couldn’t take it, but still managed to play one on turn 25 and drew another on turn 77?

The name of the game is to cycle through cards as much as possible. The more chances to draw from the deck you get, the more likely it is you’ll get the high-value cards. If you fill your hands so you can’t draw, you lose valuable possibilities. Nobody is cheating; you just haven’t figured the strategy out. (Which is fine! I don’t have a good handle on the strategy either! But I know this, and I’m not looking for excuses as to why I don’t play well.)

If you close your mind to the possibilities of learning how to play better, you won’t learn anything.