Weak Cards Banlist Discussion!

[grnt]

I think growing farm is a very fun card, and it looks impressive when it's good, but I think the situations it is good in are almost exclusively win more situations outside of 2 room growth strategies

[EuroGamez]

I think growing farm is a very fun card, and it looks impressive when it's good, but I think the situations it is good in are almost exclusively win more situations outside of 2 room growth strategies

Growing Farm is only banned in 1 or 2 player games. I don't think 2 room growth strategies are a thing in 2 player games. At least I've never really seen any in my many many games... But if you have some cool 2 room wins in 2-player I'd love to see the replays.

[alexwjb]

It's now been a little while since I finished implementing the last cards. I think there are two cards worthy of consideration for the weak banlist.

Sweep: "Each time before you use the action space above the most recent round 1-14 action space, you get 2 clay." I have never seen this even be played, let alone successfully. I think it is possibly as bad as the very worst cards (Catcher / Breeder Buyer etc).

Publican: "Each time before another player takes an unconditional Sow action, you can give them 1 grain from your supply to get 1 bonus point." Even worse than the already-weak-banned Paymaster, since you are giving your opponent grain at the moment they would most want it.

Opinions?

[torvaldur_makan]

It's now been a little while since I finished implementing the last cards. I think there are two cards worthy of consideration for the weak banlist.

Sweep: "Each time before you use the action space above the most recent round 1-14 action space, you get 2 clay." I have never seen this even be played, let alone successfully. I think it is possibly as bad as the very worst cards (Catcher / Breeder Buyer etc).

Publican: "Each time before another player takes an unconditional Sow action, you can give them 1 grain from your supply to get 1 bonus point." Even worse than the already-weak-banned Paymaster, since you are giving your opponent grain at the moment they would most want it.

Opinions?

I agree. Ban Growing Farm, Publican and Sweep.

Sweep is not only bad but also such poor design. I would never be able to build a strategy around it because my brain can't intuitively think of which action space it would be. Much like cards referring to "action space cards revealed before the most recent harvest".

Growing Farm is also a bad and poorly designed card. The requirement is complicated and the effect is too. If it was a good card, maybe I could learn how it works but now I just read the name and go to the next card.