Hidden luck bonus in the game algorithm

[Silene]

Do you think your answers can explain difference between 5% and 60%?

Yeah, i think it can explain the big gap. Motivation to pay for premium (or contribute to get it for free) is that much higher on very active and skilled players. You don't buy premium when you're just checking out the platform or just play every now and then. and I can imagine there must be millions of such registered users.

[silentProtest]

But you can not choose who you are playing against, so I really do not see a way for the effect that you are talking about to play a role.
I am not a judge here, and I just asked the question! If you think it can explain the gap, then good! )

do you know the jackie chan "WHAT?" meme ?! xDD

IF youre talking arena , ok lets say you cant choose - youre still paired with a higher total amount of players ...
I was talking about top elo - and yes you can choose the games you play ...

[Amirreza10]

But you can not choose who you are playing against, so I really do not see a way for the effect that you are talking about to play a role.
I am not a judge here, and I just asked the question! If you think it can explain the gap, then good! )

do you know the jackie chan "WHAT?" meme ?! xDD

IF youre talking arena , ok lets say you cant choose - youre still paired with a higher total amount of players ...
I was talking about top elo - and yes you can choose the games you play ...

I think I can just quote this part of your comment "IF youre talking arena , ok lets say you cant chooseç" and leave it at that! It is really funny that you start stating a fact by "lets say" ! ) Even Jackie Chan can not be this surprised! It was a lovely exchange of ideas and showed me the logic behind it!

[silentProtest]

I think I can just quote this part of your comment "IF youre talking arena , ok lets say you cant chooseç" and leave it at that! It is really funny that you start stating a fact by "lets say" ! ) Even Jackie Chan can not be this surprised! It was a lovely exchange of ideas and showed me the logic behind it!

because the cost of arena not auto starting is that you CAN know

[Amirreza10]

because the cost of arena not auto starting is that you CAN know
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Really clear sentence! It is truly enlightening!

[silentProtest]

Really clear sentence! It is truly enlightening!

I thought so - youre welsome lol
you can know your opponent in arena, just as an logical consequence of them changing it up to manual arena confirmation; that is why I suggested to make the assumption that one does not know...

but nevermind that. I was mainly talking about elo, since you never were specific of what you want to know

[Amirreza10]

Really clear sentence! It is truly enlightening!

I thought so - youre welsome lol
you can know your opponent in arena, just as an logical consequence of them changing it up to manual arena confirmation; that is why I suggested to make the assumption that one does not know...

but nevermind that. I was mainly talking about elo, since you never were specific of what you want to know

I asked why the ratio of premium players to standard players in the top 100 is much more than the general ratio amongst them? Your initial answer was basically "because good players equal premium players". Now you are changing your answer to "Because they have a clear advantage designed by the website to have better ELOs". Can you spot the inconsistency in your answers?

[silentProtest]

Really clear sentence! It is truly enlightening!

I thought so - youre welsome lol
you can know your opponent in arena, just as an logical consequence of them changing it up to manual arena confirmation; that is why I suggested to make the assumption that one does not know...

but nevermind that. I was mainly talking about elo, since you never were specific of what you want to know

I asked why the ratio of premium players to standard players in the top 100 is much more than the general ratio amongst them? Your initial answer was basically "because good players equal premium players". Now you are changing your answer to "Because they have a clear advantage designed by the website to have better ELOs". Can you spot the inconsistency in your answers?

top 100 based on elo OR based on arena points in current arena season ...
the answer from me and Silene was multifactorial that gives you an idea of what categories of things are in play.

... and that whole thing reached the point that it became so dumb that I cant even think of ways to make humor out of it - have fun with whatever you are trying to do.

PS: the answers were "basically" NOT that. the only inconsistency I see, is between how you can write but either not think or read (has to be one of those...)

[Amirreza10]

top 100 based on elo OR based on arena points in current arena season ...
the answer from me and Silene was multifactorial that gives you an idea of what categories of things are in play.

... and that whole thing reached the point that it became so dumb that I cant even think of ways to make humor out of it - have fun with whatever you are trying to do.

PS: the answers were "basically" NOT that. the only inconsistency I see, is between how you can write but either not think or read (has to be one of those...)
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I see how you are struggling with writing and how frustrated you are because of that! ) No worries, mate! I will not continue this discussion, as it is getting further and further from the basics of logic and closer to making jokes! I hope you have happy times and many unbiased wins! Cheers!

PS: From now on, I will only use this website to try games and be competitive somewhere else!

[silentProtest]

PS: From now on, I will only use this website to try games and be competitive somewhere else!

as you should as you should .... xDD

"
7 Wonders Duel 179 elo
1 872 Games • 825 Victories • 44% wins

7 Wonders 225 elo
876 Games • 159 Victories • 32% wins
"
... and as you always did

PS: I also said everything to you that couldve been constructive in any way ^^ - and making fun of you even more, feels like beating a dead horse :\