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Re: Why was the racial justice thread locked?
Posted: 18 November 2020, 12:54
by Giordano Bruno 1974
More to the point. BGA has these games on licence from their publisher. I doubt that the publisher would be very happy if a Wiki explaining how their game was toxic and racist appeared alongside the game description / rules. The likelihood is that permission to host the game would be removed right away.
Re: Why was the racial justice thread locked?
Posted: 18 November 2020, 13:50
by Recyclops
N_Faker wrote: ↑18 November 2020, 04:16
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑18 November 2020, 04:10
We are "on topic". We are simply highlighting the absurdity of the demands.
This thread questions BGA's response to the
other thread, and isn't a direct continuation of it.
Exactly this, thank you. I encourage anyone who wants to directly continue that conversation to create another thread to discuss that.
Re: Why was the racial justice thread locked?
Posted: 18 November 2020, 13:52
by N_Faker
The given reason for locking the other thread was BGA's seeming disapproval of discussing such thing here and even invited us to discuss it elsewhere.
You are in effect perpetuating the very thing that the last thread was locked for.
BGA's stance for why the last thread was locked seems clear enough though.
Re: Why was the racial justice thread locked?
Posted: 18 November 2020, 14:49
by Giordano Bruno 1974
N_Faker wrote: ↑18 November 2020, 13:52
The given reason for locking the other thread was BGA's seeming disapproval of discussing such thing here and even invited us to discuss it elsewhere.
You are in effect perpetuating the very thing that the last thread was locked for.
BGA's stance for why the last thread was locked seems clear enough though.
If their stance and the reasons behind it are clear enough then there is nothing more to be said on the topic.
What's the point in this thread?
Re: Why was the racial justice thread locked?
Posted: 18 November 2020, 14:52
by Giordano Bruno 1974
Recyclops wrote: ↑18 November 2020, 13:50
N_Faker wrote: ↑18 November 2020, 04:16
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑18 November 2020, 04:10
We are "on topic". We are simply highlighting the absurdity of the demands.
This thread questions BGA's response to the
other thread, and isn't a direct continuation of it.
Exactly this, thank you. I encourage anyone who wants to directly continue that conversation to create another thread to discuss that.
What were you doing when you said this exactly?
Recyclops wrote:
Also, it should not be political to be concerned with the treatment of people. If the thread had not been locked, I would go on to say that we need to look at it through an inter-cultural lends. Unfortunately not everyone has had exposure to education in these topics and may genuinely not know better, so I think education is very important.
It seems to me that you were continuing the locked topic.
Re: Why was the racial justice thread locked?
Posted: 18 November 2020, 15:14
by Recyclops
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑18 November 2020, 14:52
Recyclops wrote: ↑18 November 2020, 13:50
N_Faker wrote: ↑18 November 2020, 04:16
This thread questions BGA's response to the
other thread, and isn't a direct continuation of it.
Exactly this, thank you. I encourage anyone who wants to directly continue that conversation to create another thread to discuss that.
What were you doing when you said this exactly?
Recyclops wrote:
Also, it should not be political to be concerned with the treatment of people. If the thread had not been locked, I would go on to say that we need to look at it through an inter-cultural lends. Unfortunately not everyone has had exposure to education in these topics and may genuinely not know better, so I think education is very important.
It seems to me that you were continuing the locked topic.
My mistake for giving off that intention! I completely agree with you that I should have left that part out (I believe I did say "I digress"). Moving forward let's keep it on to my original topic in my first post, thank you! I encourage you to create your own thread should you want to discuss your other points further.
Re: Why was the racial justice thread locked?
Posted: 18 November 2020, 15:23
by N_Faker
To seek clarification and to voice their general dissatisfaction at how they were just silenced.
Re: Why was the racial justice thread locked?
Posted: 18 November 2020, 16:53
by Giordano Bruno 1974
N_Faker wrote: ↑18 November 2020, 15:23
To seek clarification and to voice their general dissatisfaction at how they were just silenced.
Since it's clear that we won't get clarification and dissatisfaction has been expressed. Let it die.
Re: Why was the racial justice thread locked?
Posted: 19 November 2020, 10:25
by estroncio
RibbitWiz wrote: ↑17 November 2020, 21:49
To provide a place for nice people to play nice games with other nice people, you have to consider the perspectives of all your users. I am a privileged white lady. If I were native american and saw a game that, first, used the phrase "Indian", and then showed the settlers and Native Americans as "friends" where the Native Americans were eager to help the settlers colonize the land?!? I would feel ignored, disrespected and unseen as a person. How does that fit into your goal of "nice"? How many people are you willing to ostracize and turn away from your platform because of these hurtful themes?
Do you think
all the Native Americans would feel and react the way you think you would feel and react?
Re: Why was the racial justice thread locked?
Posted: 19 November 2020, 15:02
by T72on1
Using the N word should always result in a ban. Straight racism shouldn't have it's place here.