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Re: TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

Posted: 10 July 2025, 14:28
by Kulikk
I'd also add that there are factors limiting the "randomness" to much higher extent, for example right know there are basicaly two separate player bases in live and turn base games

Re: TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

Posted: 10 July 2025, 14:44
by jaymc1130
Kulikk wrote: 10 July 2025, 14:14
it would be different if someone kept track of everyones average elo over, let's say, 50 games and targeted players above their assumed "real play strength" but it would be extremely tedious to do and I don't know anyone who'd done that.
Funny, I know a lot of folks who have done this. 😉

Re: TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

Posted: 10 July 2025, 14:50
by primrose1234
You mean anyone who played against you when your rating was higher than 1800? :mrgreen:

Re: TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

Posted: 10 July 2025, 14:53
by jaymc1130
primrose1234 wrote: 10 July 2025, 14:50 You mean anyone who played against you when your rating was higher than 1800? :mrgreen:
Well then that would make all 5k of my opponents pretty clever…

Though they’d probably wanna wait for 2100+, getting a really really raw deal otherwise.

Re: TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

Posted: 10 July 2025, 14:56
by xspuipuke
Kulikk wrote: 10 July 2025, 14:28 I'd also add that there are factors limiting the "randomness" to much higher extent, for example right know there are basicaly two separate player bases in live and turn base games
True, especially given the ridiculously low timer for initial selection in RT games.

Re: TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

Posted: 10 July 2025, 15:46
by Kulikk
jaymc1130 wrote: 10 July 2025, 14:44
Kulikk wrote: 10 July 2025, 14:14
it would be different if someone kept track of everyones average elo over, let's say, 50 games and targeted players above their assumed "real play strength" but it would be extremely tedious to do and I don't know anyone who'd done that.
Funny, I know a lot of folks who have done this. 😉
Well if we are talking about steam I know some of them too :P

Re: TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

Posted: 11 July 2025, 22:17
by RoyalRook
Kulikk don't even waste anymore of your time arguing with player like that. You think most of them understand half of things you are trying to teach? They haven't played near enough games yet. You just touch and go lolz.

Re: TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

Posted: 11 July 2025, 23:53
by HappyMeaI
RoyalRook wrote: 11 July 2025, 22:17 Kulikk don't even waste anymore of your time arguing with player like that. You think most of them understand half of things you are trying to teach? They haven't played near enough games yet. You just touch and go lolz.
Yes Kulikk the almighty! Believes AI Central is the 54th best card in the deck based on some bogus stats. :o

RoyalRook the master of TFM, the only man to claim he can think 10 gens ahead, :roll: yet fails to finish half his games out of fear of losing elo and I’ve seen him start games at 3 AM est. and request to abandon when he’s clearly going to lose.

Lol :lol:

Re: TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

Posted: 12 July 2025, 00:02
by jaymc1130
HappyMeaI wrote: 11 July 2025, 23:53
Yes Kulikk the almighty! Believes AI Central is the 54th best card in the deck based on some bogus stats.
I don’t think he made any statements about what rank he would give AIC out of all the cards, just that it’s overrated by weaker players because it’s a powerful card that’s more difficult to use efficiently than it looks at face value leading to a less impressive win rate compared with other, also powerful, cards.

Re: TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

Posted: 12 July 2025, 00:25
by FrankJones
AI central stats should be taken with a grain of salt.

Did the person play a few terrible science tags just to play AI central? DO a SP power plant because of flacking an energy card?

Did the person still buy all the marginally playable cards in the draft, resulting in always being too broke to make use of AI central?

Unless someone is claiming it's the 54th best card in the deck, it seems useless to me to point out that it is ranked 54th in some chart.