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Amirreza10 wrote: ↑27 October 2026, 02:31 I asked why the ratio of premium players to standard players in the top 100 is much more than the general ratio amongst them? Your initial answer was basically "because good players equal premium players". Now you are changing your answer to "Because they have a clear advantage designed by the website to have better ELOs". Can you spot the inconsistency in your answers?

The responses were that there is a correlation. That's not equation.

Correlation doesn't even tell about causation. I think the effect of premium subscription helping to become better players is quite low (although it is easier to find tables with your preferred settings). I think the more relevant part is that people who spend a lot of time here and achieved stuff here are probably more likely the people that think premium cost is money well spent for them because they use the service a lot. Also they're probably more interesting in access to stats than some casual gamer.

silentProtest wrote: ↑27 October 2026, 15:30

Amirreza10 wrote: ↑27 October 2026, 14:25


PS: From now on, I will only use this website to try games and be competitive somewhere else!

as you should as you should .... xDD

"
7 Wonders Duel 179 elo
1 872 Games • 825 Victories • 44% wins

7 Wonders 225 elo
876 Games • 159 Victories • 32% wins
"
... and as you always did

PS: I also said everything to you that couldve been constructive in any way ^^ - and making fun of you even more, feels like beating a dead horse :\

I read your "About me" and I see how you are wholeheartedly defending this website, and I just feel pity! It is so beneath me to answer you, and I feel ashamed that I have done it so far! Feel happy about your ELO! )

Amirreza10 wrote: ↑27 October 2026, 15:49
I read your "About me" and I see how you wholeheartedly are defending this website, and I just feel pity! It is so beneath me to answer you, and I feel ashamed that I have done it so far! Feel happy about your paid ELO! )

OK, have to correct those blatant lies.

I dont have Premium. And I have never paid the site for Premium.

My "About me" shows very clearly that Im very at odds with BGA.

.... somteimes Im asking myself: "Am I writing with an badly made AI?" O.o

...Man this whole thread with you is off-topic. But that(vagueness, confident empty claims, switchign from topic to topic, deflecting etc..) is a functioning method for conspiracy theory crafting and cult building

Silene wrote: ↑27 October 2026, 15:33

Amirreza10 wrote: ↑27 October 2026, 02:31 I asked why the ratio of premium players to standard players in the top 100 is much more than the general ratio amongst them? Your initial answer was basically "because good players equal premium players". Now you are changing your answer to "Because they have a clear advantage designed by the website to have better ELOs". Can you spot the inconsistency in your answers?

The responses were that there is a correlation. That's not equation.

Correlation doesn't even tell about causation. I think the effect of premium subscription helping to become better players is quite low (although it is easier to find tables with your preferred settings). I think the more relevant part is that people who spend a lot of time here and achieved stuff here are probably more likely the people that think premium cost is money well spent for them because they use the service a lot. Also they're probably more interesting in access to stats than some casual gamer.

I am so happy that you pointed out that correlation is not causation. In this order, then the question should be what makes a correlation stronger than other ones, no? On the one hand, the correlation I pointed out was between being a premium player and being high in ranking. I provided data for this correlation, showing a higher ratio of premium accounts to standard accounts compared to the general ratio of the website. On the other hand, you are referring to causation! You are saying the reason someone becomes premium is that they are serious players. Right? Do we agree so far?
If we agree, then in the same manner, I request data regarding the causation you are referring to. So please enlighten me with data on the percentage of serious players becoming premium. But this is not even the most demanding part. The key feature of your claim is that skill is much more important in playing 7wd than luck or "hidden luck". Of course, proving your claim is very easy if you compare debutant players with much more skilled and experienced ones. Yet, you are claiming that the importance of skill is still high even when it comes to players who are both experienced. So, again, as the second request, do you have any data backing this up? Or are you all along just making assumptions based on your personal experience??

silentProtest wrote: ↑27 October 2026, 15:57

Amirreza10 wrote: ↑27 October 2026, 15:49
I read your "About me" and I see how you wholeheartedly are defending this website, and I just feel pity! It is so beneath me to answer you, and I feel ashamed that I have done it so far! Feel happy about your paid ELO! )

OK, have to correct those blatant lies.

I dont have Premium. And I have never paid the site for Premium.

My "About me" shows very clearly that Im very at odds with BGA.

.... somteimes Im asking myself: "Am I writing with an badly made AI?" O.o

...Man this whole thread with you is off-topic. But that(vagueness, confident empty claims, switchign from topic to topic, deflecting etc..) is a functioning method for conspiracy theory crafting and cult building

No, you are right! I admit and corrected my mistake! I am sorry about it! Just enjoy your standard ELO! ) "An" badly made AI! )

Amirreza10 wrote: ↑27 October 2026, 16:13 [...] You are saying the reason someone becomes premium is that they are serious players. Right? Do we agree so far?
[...]
The key feature of your claim is that skill is much more important in playing 7wd than luck or "hidden luck". [...]
Yet, you are claiming that the importance of skill is still high even when it comes to players who are both experienced.[...]

You're quoting me but I don't think you're responding to me because what you say I said is not what I said. So maybe you accidently quoted the wrong person.

I am saying spending a lot of time on BGA is a reason for many to become premium. It is an assumption. I can't back up this claim with data but consider it common sense and put in a lot of "I think"s and "Probably"s and "might"s when I claim stuff like that.

About the 7wd part... I didn't say anything about that and what I said was independent of a specific game.