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gilco
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New rating of games on bga ?

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I discovered recently a message asking to vote for the game I was playing, attributing stars to evaluate it. It seems new to me and I would like to know the purpose of it. What does bga intend to do with this new information?
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sourisdudesert
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Re: New rating of games on bga ?

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Hi

This is a way for the developers & admins to detect games that need to be improved.
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Re: New rating of games on bga ?

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One engine available to the site to improve games is via the Suggestions Forum. In fact, there's a new game that is becoming more and more of a drudgery for me to play and I have a suggestion to liven it up.

But when I go to the Suggestions Forum and click on some of the items there, this is the common scenario I encounter: Someone will have made a suggestion several weeks ago. 10-15 comments will have been posted underneath. Over a hundred votes will have been cast to consider the suggestion for implementation. And yet the following caption always seems to be the sad punchline...... "awaiting: This suggestion has not been analyzed by the developers yet."

If there'd be follow through....if developers and admin would get more active in processing these suggestions, this would be a further step to improving games that could stand to see some improvement.
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Re: New rating of games on bga ?

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vigorousRoll wrote: 03 December 2020, 18:17 If there'd be follow through....if developers and admin would get more active in processing these suggestions, this would be a further step to improving games that could stand to see some improvement.
We have 280 games here, and tons of suggestions for them. Some suggestions have plenty of comments/votes, not because they are the best, but because the author of the suggestion is the most active to promote it / make players vote for it.

Some concrete example: a mid-popular game with 50.000 players playing it each month on BGA, with a suggestion voted 50 times. 50 is quite a lot of votes, but the 50 players who vote for it may represent 0.1% of the regular players, and it may be that the 99.9% other players don't want the suggestion.

Even with this problem, suggestions are useful, and we need them to provide ideas for improvements.

In the opposite to suggestions, ratings are representative. We ask players randomly to rate games, and this way we can know if the community like the game as it is (= we should not change anything), like the game but feels it's not perfect (= we should change it a little), or dislike it (= we should made important change to the adaptation).

tl;dr: We will use ratings to evaluate IF we must change something in a game, and suggestions to know WHAT we must change.
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Curling
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Re: New rating of games on bga ?

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Sad that I never reviewed the backgammon. Really good game but probably the only incomplete game on BGA. The doubling cube is missing. With it, it would be an other dimension of backgammon...
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Re: New rating of games on bga ?

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I got such a pop-up. I just closed it as I had no idea what it was supposed to be.

And looking at reviewer star ratings, this will not give a reliable indication for implementation flaws.

A randomly selected user may not even be aware that a bug is present or that anything non-evident should probably be done differently. Many may just consign themselves to how it is or has been, and just click whatever star rating or cancel just to make the pop-up go away.
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Re: New rating of games on bga ?

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Curling wrote: 03 December 2020, 22:31 Sad that I never reviewed the backgammon. Really good game but probably the only incomplete game on BGA. The doubling cube is missing. With it, it would be an other dimension of backgammon...
What about instead of a round of backgammon being decided by a single game, make it a best of 7 match? If one player places the doubling cube, the game would then count as 2 toward the best of 7. If the cube gets turned again, then that single game would decide the entire match
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Lymon Flowers
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Re: New rating of games on bga ?

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That is indeed a very nice feature. I already had feedback that way that I had not by the bug tracking system.

Thought, I am a bit surprised that 45% of the improvement path for Downforce is adding more expansions since I added ALL of the expansions and tracks and even non-official fan stuff. Players just can't be satiated. :mrgreen:
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Re: New rating of games on bga ?

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sourisdudesert wrote: 03 December 2020, 09:01 Hi

This is a way for the developers & admins to detect games that need to be improved.
There is hex that need to be improved to work correctly with mobile, but no one fixing it. And the glitch make a bit of the board unplayable on mobile. 11x11 and above.

Here the link:
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=4290
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Re: New rating of games on bga ?

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vigorousRoll wrote: 03 December 2020, 23:59
Curling wrote: 03 December 2020, 22:31 Sad that I never reviewed the backgammon. Really good game but probably the only incomplete game on BGA. The doubling cube is missing. With it, it would be an other dimension of backgammon...
What about instead of a round of backgammon being decided by a single game, make it a best of 7 match? If one player places the doubling cube, the game would then count as 2 toward the best of 7. If the cube gets turned again, then that single game would decide the entire match
If a player just double against a players who plays the cube rightly, he will probably lose the game. Cube is much better than best of x
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